re: UPDATE: Idaho Murders Thread (Links inside)

Is Band Field that field between fraternity house and area where house is?

If it is the field it may not be related to murder, but it would mean a cop was around just after 3am. Don’t know if they keep lights flashing for something like this or how long it stayed there, but seeing or not seeing others on Taylor around then is still something.

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There has been extensive media interest regarding an incident at Taylor Avenue and Band Field on November 13, 2022, at 3:01 a.m. This incident was an alcohol offense which was addressed by the on-scene officer. This call is not related to the murder investigations.

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The below was from a police update a couple of days ago, but it lends to thinking dog was behind a closed door or would have been with surviving roommates when police arrived versus found during search. It also seems it was probably in Kaylee’s room (surviving roommates would have told them if dog slept in their room that night unless their doors weren’t shut like many think and not sure why it would be kept in unused bedroom over night).

Who shut dog in? If Kaylee then how would killer know there wasn’t another roommate in there to kill? If barking stopped killer from opening door then kind of seems like it would made killer leave before killing other two unless they were first. Barking carries in the middle of the night.

The dog was by itself & either loose or shut in a room for several hours that night until 1st floor roommates came back at 1am or the others came back closer to 2am. I am guessing someone had to take dog outside to go to bathroom. It doesn’t seem like it would be shut in somewhere by itself again. Maybe If too hyper to lay on bed while drunk calling and to stop it from bothering others in house, and though dogs are different most dogs after being by themselves get a little hyper and energetic wanting attention. Dogs act like an hour alone has been a full day without seeing you. That energy seems like it would have continued past the calls to ex and made more noise than killer would have wanted to kill more on 2nd floor.

If dog calm enough to be let loose in house and then just stayed away from a stranger, not killed, and allowed to be shut in a room by killer seems it had to have been drugged or unconcerned with killer. Most calm dog in the world is still a dog and not a cat especially a young dog.

Outside of Kaylee shutting dog in her room and a random killer starting on 2nd floor and leaving after killing Kaylee & Madison without opening Kaylee’s door due to dog it does seem like the dog and roommates actions with it were known variables of the killer.

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During the search of the home, a dog was found in a room where the crimes had not been committed. Officers did not find any evidence on the dog and there was no indication the animal had entered the crime scene.
While the dog was in the house when officers arrived, it has not been determined where the dog was physically located when the murders took place.

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Remember when the OT sleuths were convinced Brian Laundrie was innocent?

This thread reminds me how wrong most people are.

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This is starting to remind me of the Jon Benet Ramsey case. Police bungling, multiple people in the house but no answers.

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Nowhere close.
JonBonet Ramsay case is clear cut as to a family member did it.

This case is way more like other random murders, most notably some of the Ted Bundy murders across the country

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There's a lot of evidence both ways.

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"Both ways"?
There is zero evidence that her murder was caused by someone outside the home.
And please don't try to bring up "touch DNA" found on her panties 15 years after the murder.

Could have just walked away. There is multi-family housing in every direction.

Also, her father and half brother are asking the Governor to grant DNA testing on remaining samples. That is not something a murderer would pursue.

DNA evidence cleared John, Patsy, and Burke Ramsey.

One of JonBenet Ramsey's dance studio mates, 12 year old named Amy, was raped by a masked intruder 9 months after JonBenet's death by a man dressed in all black who broke into her home. Similar facts as the JonBenet case which is why the Chief of Police apologized to the Ramsey family publicly. In both cases Camel Blue Cigarette Butts were found outside both homes and the 12 year old told police the rapist knew her name.

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So, how are the Ramsay’s connected to this?

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Please, can we please keep this thread focused on the Moscow murders??

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Please, can we please keep this thread focused on the Moscow murders??

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That is hard when there is nothing new, beyond "The police chief went on TV and cried again."

They do keep saying, again and again that there is no sign of forced entry. I guess this means that the sliding door was unlocked.

Food truck, hoodie boy was cleared quickly, then possibly not cleared, quit his frat, and maybe fled the country. That is all rumorish. Who knows what the truth is?

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Remember when the OT sleuths were convinced Brian Laundrie was innocent?

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This was never the overwhelming opinion.