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Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:23 pm to ThatMakesSense
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If the DA and prosecutors are willing to bring it down to manslaughter, does there give them leverage on sentencing? Seems fricked up to be brought on higher charges, in hopes you acquiesce to guilt on a lesser charge and they still get a conviction
You're free to go to trial and fight it if you're innocent, but IIRC, the jury can still find you guilty of a lesser charge. It's a shitty deal all around, but it is what it is.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:24 pm to slackster
Has anything noteworthy came out in the last few hours worth a shite? Or is it just people talking back and forth
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:25 pm to ThatMakesSense
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If the DA and prosecutors are willing to bring it down to manslaughter, does there give them leverage on sentencing? Seems fricked up to be brought on higher charges, in hopes you acquiesce to guilt on a lesser charge and they still get a conviction.
Not sure what you're saying. If he's charged with murder by the grand jury, he's not getting "higher charges", he's getting charged with what the law says he did. If by kicking in the head, he intended to kill or commit great bodily harm, and the victim died, it's a second degree murder. The fact that you reduce to plea a case doesn't mean that's what it really was in tbe beginning.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:25 pm to tLSU
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Judges sentence except for in capital cases. Murder carries mandatory life, though. And life means life in LA.
Murder is murder. Hate to see two lives lost to
drunken stupidity.
I agree with an earlier post. This guy walks...and
New Orleans will burn, especially if the major networks
pick up this story and run with it.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:25 pm to slackster
4 outcomes at trial iirc
Guilty of murder
Guilty of manslaughter
Guilty of negligent homicide
Not guilty.
Guilty of murder
Guilty of manslaughter
Guilty of negligent homicide
Not guilty.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:25 pm to slackster
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You're free to go to trial and fight it if you're innocent, but IIRC, the jury can still find you guilty of a lesser charge. It's a shitty deal all around, but it is what it is
Nobody is going to hire a person convicted of manslaughter to show houses privately.
I'd take my chances. I don't think I could be happy with myself serving 10 years without a fight.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:25 pm to Walt OReilly
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Has anything noteworthy came out in the last few hours worth a shite? Or is it just people talking back and forth
Bond was set at $250k. It doesn't appear he's made bond at the moment. Nothing else.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:26 pm to Ed Osteen
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didn’t realize he was actually locked up, I thought it was all a joke earlier in the thread. He has struggled with drugs so I’d imagine a drug charge or something similar
I just looked at the St. Tammany prison roster and his name is on there, sad. I’m not going to post his name but surely some of you know his irl name.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:27 pm to tLSU
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Not sure what you're saying. If he's charged with murder by the grand jury, he's not getting "higher charges", he's getting charged with what the law says he did. If by kicking in the head, he intended to kill or commit great bodily harm, and the victim died, it's a second degree murder. The fact that you reduce to plea a case doesn't mean that's what it really was in tbe beginning.
I was saying the DA using a higher charge, as a crutch, to secure a plea for a lesser charge.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:27 pm to tLSU
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tLSU
will he be charged with "depraved indifference"? is that even a thing in Louisiana?
I know Elizabeth Rohm would have probably charged him with that had he pulled this stunt in Brooklyn.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:27 pm to ThatMakesSense
You can always appeal a conviction, but that's no way to approach a case as the likelihood of success is so low. But there's no vehicle for a court to say "that sentence for murder was excessive, the judge should have given you 30".
If he takes a plea, he waives his right to appeal.
If he takes a plea, he waives his right to appeal.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:28 pm to slackster
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Bond was set at $250k
Isn't it 11%? So about 27.5k give or take a little.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:29 pm to ellishughtiger
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I just looked at the St. Tammany prison roster and his name is on there, sad.
He's on his 3rd strike.
Ward will probably get out before SS.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:29 pm to jdeval1
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Isn't it 11%? So about 27.5k give or take a little.
I think that’s only if you get a bondsman.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:30 pm to Rebel
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He's on his 3rd strike.
We have that here?
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:30 pm to ThatMakesSense
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I was saying the DA using a higher charge, as a crutch, to secure a plea for a lesser charge.
That's not a crutch. That's the actual offense under the law. If they charged him with manslaughter, and he said "ready for trial," they'd have to go in and prove a case that they couldn't... Because that's not what he did.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:30 pm to ThatMakesSense
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I was saying the DA using a higher charge, as a crutch, to secure a plea for a lesser charge
To each their own, by it doesn't appear he was overcharged in this case, as of yet.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:30 pm to magildachunks
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I think that’s only if you get a bondsman
Yeah that's what I meant. I've bailed a few people out over the years but it's been a long time.
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