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re: Update: Alleged Perp in custody: Garret James Ward of BR for 2nd Degree murder

Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:23 pm to
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:23 pm to
Where did Garret go to high school?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:23 pm to
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If the DA and prosecutors are willing to bring it down to manslaughter, does there give them leverage on sentencing? Seems fricked up to be brought on higher charges, in hopes you acquiesce to guilt on a lesser charge and they still get a conviction


You're free to go to trial and fight it if you're innocent, but IIRC, the jury can still find you guilty of a lesser charge. It's a shitty deal all around, but it is what it is.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:24 pm to
Has anything noteworthy came out in the last few hours worth a shite? Or is it just people talking back and forth
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8684 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:25 pm to
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If the DA and prosecutors are willing to bring it down to manslaughter, does there give them leverage on sentencing? Seems fricked up to be brought on higher charges, in hopes you acquiesce to guilt on a lesser charge and they still get a conviction.



Not sure what you're saying. If he's charged with murder by the grand jury, he's not getting "higher charges", he's getting charged with what the law says he did. If by kicking in the head, he intended to kill or commit great bodily harm, and the victim died, it's a second degree murder. The fact that you reduce to plea a case doesn't mean that's what it really was in tbe beginning.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59246 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:25 pm to
Nothing
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18624 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:25 pm to
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Judges sentence except for in capital cases. Murder carries mandatory life, though. And life means life in LA.



Murder is murder. Hate to see two lives lost to
drunken stupidity.

I agree with an earlier post. This guy walks...and
New Orleans will burn, especially if the major networks
pick up this story and run with it.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59926 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:25 pm to
4 outcomes at trial iirc
Guilty of murder
Guilty of manslaughter
Guilty of negligent homicide
Not guilty.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:25 pm to
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You're free to go to trial and fight it if you're innocent, but IIRC, the jury can still find you guilty of a lesser charge. It's a shitty deal all around, but it is what it is


Nobody is going to hire a person convicted of manslaughter to show houses privately.

I'd take my chances. I don't think I could be happy with myself serving 10 years without a fight.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:25 pm to
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Has anything noteworthy came out in the last few hours worth a shite? Or is it just people talking back and forth


Bond was set at $250k. It doesn't appear he's made bond at the moment. Nothing else.
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:26 pm to
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didn’t realize he was actually locked up, I thought it was all a joke earlier in the thread. He has struggled with drugs so I’d imagine a drug charge or something similar



I just looked at the St. Tammany prison roster and his name is on there, sad. I’m not going to post his name but surely some of you know his irl name.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 7:28 pm
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:27 pm to
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Not sure what you're saying. If he's charged with murder by the grand jury, he's not getting "higher charges", he's getting charged with what the law says he did. If by kicking in the head, he intended to kill or commit great bodily harm, and the victim died, it's a second degree murder. The fact that you reduce to plea a case doesn't mean that's what it really was in tbe beginning.


I was saying the DA using a higher charge, as a crutch, to secure a plea for a lesser charge.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143841 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:27 pm to
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tLSU



will he be charged with "depraved indifference"? is that even a thing in Louisiana?

I know Elizabeth Rohm would have probably charged him with that had he pulled this stunt in Brooklyn.

Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8684 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:27 pm to
You can always appeal a conviction, but that's no way to approach a case as the likelihood of success is so low. But there's no vehicle for a court to say "that sentence for murder was excessive, the judge should have given you 30".

If he takes a plea, he waives his right to appeal.
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:28 pm to
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Bond was set at $250k

Isn't it 11%? So about 27.5k give or take a little.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143841 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:29 pm to
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I just looked at the St. Tammany prison roster and his name is on there, sad.


He's on his 3rd strike.

Ward will probably get out before SS.


Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35884 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:29 pm to
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Isn't it 11%? So about 27.5k give or take a little.



I think that’s only if you get a bondsman.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35884 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:30 pm to
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He's on his 3rd strike.



We have that here?


Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8684 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:30 pm to
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I was saying the DA using a higher charge, as a crutch, to secure a plea for a lesser charge.



That's not a crutch. That's the actual offense under the law. If they charged him with manslaughter, and he said "ready for trial," they'd have to go in and prove a case that they couldn't... Because that's not what he did.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:30 pm to
quote:


I was saying the DA using a higher charge, as a crutch, to secure a plea for a lesser charge


To each their own, by it doesn't appear he was overcharged in this case, as of yet.
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:30 pm to
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I think that’s only if you get a bondsman

Yeah that's what I meant. I've bailed a few people out over the years but it's been a long time.
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