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re: Update: Alleged Perp in custody: Garret James Ward of BR for 2nd Degree murder
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:27 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:27 pm to lsupride87
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However, I am speaking directly to the notion the family said the detectives told them Ward was beating a woman
From the Advocate:
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Kenyada Schnyder said she talked to people who worked at the store and knew Jackson’s full name because he cashed his monthly Social Security checks there.
They told her that Ward was hitting a woman and Jackson asked him to stop.
She also said she spoke with an investigator who relayed similar information.
If the investigator told her witnesses reported seeing Ward in a heated argument with a woman, that could also corroborate the claims made by the store employees. We don't know if an investigator came out and explicitly said Ward was hitting someone else. I already explained how various arguments could be construed as some sort of fight. Hell, he may have actually been hitting a woman too.
The bottom line is that no official reports on how the altercation got started =/= this report is false.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:28 pm to lsupride87
quote:it is almost certain information from witnesses has been documented. It wouldn't be unusual for a family wondering what happened to their victim/relative to be told by police what the police know at the time and what witness accounts are, even if that information isn't publicly released.
I would hope officers would not say anything that has not yet been documented/vetted/made public.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:28 pm to lsupride87
The officers and witnesses told the media that there were witnesses that saw Gasser shoot JM outside the vehicle at point blank while he begged for his life
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:29 pm to slackster
quote:I agree it doesnt mean it if false
The bottom line is that no official reports on how the altercation got started =/= this report is false.
But it makes me think it is bullshite.
And fair or not, this original post makes me think it is even more bullshite
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Man brah this dude whoeva he his decide he wanna beat on his gurl dat day so my dad must've spoke up n told dude dats not how u treat ah lady man my pops old dude decide to beat on my dad sent my pops to the hospital dude go to jail but bond out cus his momma put up her house man I'm gon make ah song bout u fk boys who wanna beat on women I got sumthing for u bitches love ain't blind bitch ima get the nine. Man just the thought is fkn me up. . .
But I do wanna ask thus dude why he had to beat my dad but this new orleans so they might do even let me go to court when they catch this dude cus I wanna ask him why he did dat to my dad the dude was beating his girlfriend or whoeva n my dad must've spoke up n told dude dats not right so dude chose to send my dad to the hospital my dad already have health problems n is old. So dude got bonded out cus his mom put up her house so he out on bail running around sumwhere but my dad past lastnite so he goin to jail for murder.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:31 pm to Keys Open Doors
Would it be fair to presume that since it appears that the deceased had diabetes that was not controlled properly that Ward's lawyers will try to use that to their advantage? I know the cause of death was listed in the thread as blunt force trauma to the head but there was a statement by his family that his organs failed.
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Kenyada Schnyder was at her father's side at the hospital. He had emergency surgery to relieve bleeding in his brain and was on a machine helping him breathe before his organs failed and he died, she said.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:31 pm to lsupride87
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And fair or not, this original post makes me think it is even more bullshite
Why? Because she doesn’t speak like you?
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:32 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:Because she speaks like someone I have seen try to get a handout from unfortunate circumstances.
Why? Because she doesn’t speak like you?
Does that make me a biased a-hole? I dont care. I am an honest biased a-hole
People have been hammering Ward based on the way he looks. The world uses context clues to judge people. Welcome to being human
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:44 pm to lsupride87
Your bro is goin to angola. And nobody here really cares. They are just wasting work hours
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:45 pm to lsupride87
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And fair or not, this original post makes me think it is even more bullshite
Other than that wonderful grammar, why? It's consistent.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:47 pm to VABuckeye
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Would it be fair to presume that since it appears that the deceased had diabetes that was not controlled properly that Ward's lawyers will try to use that to their advantage? I know the cause of death was listed in the thread as blunt force trauma to the head but there was a statement by his family that his organs failed.
Don't know about LA but in common law states R v Hayward (the Eggshell rule) would apply (or jurisdictional case law or codified law that follows Hayward) and you take the victim as you find them. If you have a thin skull (eggshell) and I hit you with a blow that would barely harm an average adult but your head cracks like and egg and you die it is not a defense for me.
ETA you also have to be careful with this sort of argument (even when it works within the law) emphasizing how broken down the victim was when you have a 6' strapping 25yo who beat him to death is a recipe for disaster in front of a jury
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:48 pm to lsupride87
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Because she speaks like someone I have seen try to get a handout from unfortunate circumstances.
Does that make me a biased a-hole? I dont care. I am an honest biased a-hole
People have been hammering Ward based on the way he looks. The world uses context clues to judge people. Welcome to being human
You're starting to sound a little racist.
People are hammering ward because he clearly seems to have assaulted a man and is looking at being charged with murder. I have no clue how his looks matter given those facts.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:48 pm to slackster
quote:Why do people in this thread think Ward is a pretentious frat boy douche?
Other than that wonderful grammar, why?
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:49 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:Where did I mention race?
You're starting to sound a little racist.
quote:Then ask all the people who have made comments on him based on his looks
. I have no clue how his looks matter given those facts.
I am not sure why humans deny the way you speak, dress, and present yourself effects the way people judge you
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:50 pm to lsupride87
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Call me crazy, but I thought worse of him when I first thought he kicked a man to death, than simply hitting a woman
Naw man. I learned at a very early age, never lay a finger on a woman.
In a fight with a man, anything goes. Sometimes things are going to go further than they should - but, that’s what the courts are for.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:50 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:Never have met the guy
Your bro is goin to angola
But yes, I agree, he will be working the farm in a few years when I go to the rodeo
Maybe he can knit me a sweater......
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:51 pm to lsupride87
I'm not reading 70 pages. Is the current rumor that the perp was arguing with/yelling at a girl and the victim tried to break it up and ended up getting his arse kicked ?
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:51 pm to redneck
quote:It is what his family has said, yes.
I'm not reading 70 pages. Is the current rumor that the perp was arguing with/yelling at a girl and the victim tried to break it up and ended up getting his arse kicked ?
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:53 pm to redneck
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Is the current rumor that the perp was arguing with/yelling at a girl and the victim tried to break it up and ended up getting his arse kicked ?
The current rumor is the perp was in some sort of altercation with a woman. The victim got involved to stop the altercation. The perp beat the victim, kicking him twice while he was on the ground, and he succumb to his injuries 12 days later.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:54 pm to slackster
SS and this baw would make a cute couple
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