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re: Update: ALL RESCUED - Doctors Father Dies

Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:20 am to
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:20 am to
I think they likely could attempt to get all of them in a day if they absolutely had to, but this way is much safer for everyone involved. It allows the divers to not overexert and to bring the conditions back up to optimal conditions. They are 8/8 so far so it seems like the approach is working.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:26 am to
8 lives saved. The rescue team seriously deserve high honors. This has to be historical.
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
20005 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:39 am to
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It allows the divers to not overexert and to bring the conditions back up to optimal conditions.


I agree. At this point, the boys left in the cave have to have enough strength and supplies to spend 1 more night. If the visibility was limited before, it's got to be absolute slop after that many people stirring it up. Even the best divers can become disoriented and should someone have an issue in the middle of the route, it would severely complicate the situation.

A few hours of rest, hydration, tank fills, and allowing more water to be pumped would all be necessary to continue an effective rescue operation.


There is a cave system in Vortex Springs FL, and this is the sign at the entrance to the cave.




While I can understand the lure, diving in caves is some scary shite.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10115 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:49 am to
Two times I was the most scared. Diving in a cave (didn't go very far in) and diving at night. These boys have been in my prayers.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
21155 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:51 am to
I'm thinking there is a hard stop for the MENTAL aspect for the rescuers.

Cave Diving is beyond technical and adding in the stress of trying to save a bunch of kids can push someone to take a risk they normally would never do.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:53 am to
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While I can understand the lure, diving in caves is some scary shite.



And this Thai cave has 0% visibility in the water.

Said it's like diving in coffee with cream.

Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
21155 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:53 am to
I did a very minor excursion into a MOUTH of a cave, and as soon as the silt got kicked up, my little red warning light went into overdrive and I aborted the down time in the cave and got the frick out of Dodge.

Cave diving is not for me. I will happily go through tunnels but caves, no.
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
20005 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:58 am to
For me it was the vertigo. Some silt gets stirred, you lose sense of which direction is up/down. Exhale and watch your bubbles roll down your shoulder and towards your feet... it'll screw you up.

The anxiety of being down there with limited O2 has you checking your gages 5x more than normal. Your breathing becomes sporadic. Stress doesn't even begin to describe it.

I have a tremendous amount of respect for everyone helping with this.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:59 am to
The two times I've been diving I was content just parking on the sea floor and watching everything swim around me, while remaining very close to the boat

If I swam around it was in a circle over coral while remaining close to the boat.

Would not dream of going into a dark cave.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
21155 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:00 am to
I can absolutely see that!

Hell, I got vertigo just hanging off a wall during a night dive (new moon)for a bunch of minutes with no reference of up or down.

I can't imagine how easy it would be to get turned around in a cave. You'd HAVE to rely on your bubbles alone.
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
20005 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:03 am to
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And this Thai cave has 0% visibility in the water.

Said it's like diving in coffee with cream.


Correct. They are practically diving in sludge. I can't imagine pulling yourself along a rope, blind, and hoping you come up on the other side. Not for 4 miles just to get to the boys.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26110 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:04 am to
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i guess i'm looking at it from a parent's side. Can't imagine being the parents of the very last one to get rescued.


The distraught parents of 12 Thai boys, who have been stranded in a cave for weeks with their soccer coach, have not been told whether their children are among those rescued, a family member told CNN.
Posted by Demon Dean
Member since Nov 2015
127 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:08 am to
How did the one diver die? I read "lack of oxygen". Did he get lost?
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:11 am to
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How did the one diver die? I read "lack of oxygen". Did he get lost?



His tank ran out because it wasn't filled properly... at least that's what I heard.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:17 am to
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The distraught parents of 12 Thai boys, who have been stranded in a cave for weeks with their soccer coach, have not been told whether their children are among those rescued, a family member told CNN.



What's the reason for this?
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38973 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:17 am to
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His tank ran out because it wasn't filled properly

Well that's terrible
Posted by LSUvegasbombed
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2013
15464 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:19 am to
man this is going to be one hell of a movie in a year or two

Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
176065 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:19 am to
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What's the reason for this?


let operations finish with no distractions?
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23842 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:19 am to
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man this is going to be one hell of a movie in a year or two



ESPN is probably frothing at the mouth over the 30 for 30
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
176065 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:20 am to
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ESPN is probably frothing at the mouth over the 30 for 30




i'd rather a 2:20 movie.
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