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re: United's dragged passenger hires high-powered Chicago personal injury lawyer
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:37 am to GetCocky11
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:37 am to GetCocky11
This is perfect response to this post
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:37 am to LNCHBOX
quote:If he had every right to that seat, it sure does.
United actions have nothing to do with him escalating the situation
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:38 am to stendulkar
Yes, the plane belongs to United. It is their property. However, when I have paid for a ticket and boarded a plane, I have essentially rented that space from them similar to how one rents a house. The issue here is that a.)The passengers were allowed to board the plane, and b.) the way in which this was finally handled. A lot of the people who say "just listen to what the police say and nothing bad would happen" or "people need to learn to listen to authority" would make really, really shitty Patriots in the 1770's.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:38 am to NYNolaguy1
I didn't pay attention too much yesterday, but is this the same dude that blamed the passenger for the whole situation yesterday?
quote:
"I continue to be disturbed by what happened on this flight, and I deeply apologize to the customer forcibly removed and to all the customers aboard," CEO Oscar Munoz said in a statement. "No one should ever be mistreated this way."
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:38 am to LNCHBOX
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That has nothing to do with how he handled the situation. You're normally more level headed than this.
Eh, some days are better than others.
If he was right legally, he should be compensated handsomely by the courts. It's ballsy because he got his arse kicked, but it's very possible he wasnt wrong for doing so.
You'd agree though that both the airline and the passenger should follow the agreed on contract at the time of purchase?
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:38 am to shel311
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But you're assigning 100% of the blame to him.
For him getting his arse kicked? You bet.
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Again, we don't know for certain the exact rule/law/policy, there's a gray area. But if you assume for 1 second that UA had no authority to do what they did(which is certainly plausible) then you can't possibly say that UA shares zero responsibility for what happened.
He got his arse kicked because he acted a fool.
That doesn't mean United wasn't stupid for trying to take away his seat.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:39 am to LNCHBOX
quote:So if United didn't try to make him leave the plane, do you think he would have still managed to freak out and get himself kicked off?
United actions have nothing to do with him escalating the situation.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:39 am to Tiger in NY
It not good business practice. As can be seen by anyone with a reasonable idea of what entering into an agreement means.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:39 am to shel311
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If he had every right to that seat, it sure does.
It's twp separate issues. Just because United took away his seat right or wrong didn't mean he was getting his arse kicked.
His actions caused his arse kicking.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:39 am to crispyUGA
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I have essentially rented that space from them similar to how one rents a house
Lol, no. Not at all similar. You can't be thrown out of your house for being too drunk or loud.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:40 am to buckeye_vol
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So if United didn't try to make him leave the plane, do you think he would have still managed to freak out and get himself kicked off?
If the guy was never born, he doesn't get his arse kicked either.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:40 am to NYNolaguy1
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You'd agree though that both the airline and the passenger should follow the agreed on contract at the time of purchase?
Yes, but that doesn't entitle this guy to damages for a situation that he was responsible for making physical.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:41 am to Tiger in NY
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don't have time to look at the language, but I highly doubt thqt the lawyers for the airlines haven't written their agreement totally in favor of the airline being able to revoke that agreement. It is NOT a "contract". Purchase agreement, at best.
It's literally called a contract of carriage. I can't find anywhere in the contract that says kicking off a peaceful paying passenger is ok when the flight is not oversold.
Maybe someone else can, but after reading it I can't find it.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:41 am to Sneaky__Sally
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It not good business practice
I'm not debating that. United was foolish, but the passenger still needed to leave the plane when told to.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:41 am to Pecker
Well you go fly United, I'll take my business elsewhere like most other people will. There's your market competition.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:41 am to LNCHBOX
quote:There you go. We should blame his parents. Probably should be Lyndon B Johnson too since he is a Vietnamese immigrant.
If the guy was never born, he doesn't get his arse kicked either.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:42 am to buckeye_vol
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There you go. We should blame his parents. Probably should be Lyndon B Johnson too since he is a Vietnamese immigrant.
You realize you're blowing up your own argument, right?
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:42 am to LNCHBOX
Definitely could have left pissed off without a broken nose or whatever. But in the end it may have worked out better for him $$$ plus I will hopefully not have to get removed from a plane in the future for employees to fly as this will likely result in some policy changes.
So overall his actions resulted in a net positive IMO.
So overall his actions resulted in a net positive IMO.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:43 am to Tiger in NY
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I'm not debating that. United was foolish, but the passenger still needed to leave the plane when told to.
meh, it brought the bad business practice to light for the rest of us. So I'm glad he did it.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:43 am to LNCHBOX
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Yes, but that doesn't entitle this guy to damages for a situation that he was responsible for making physical.
But that's assuming that United had legal grounds to boot him. If the dude has a valid contract with the airline, and the airline decides to go off script and boot him for reasons not in the contract, does he have a legal reason to leave?
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