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re: UNH's UnitedHealth CEO shot and killed
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:47 am to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:47 am to NYNolaguy1
And yet Comcast and Domino’s fails to deliver reliable quality internet and pizza and have notoriously poor customer satisfaction and their earnings don’t go bad.
UHC is the shittiest company in a sector full of shitty companies but they weren’t failing in earnings and shooting the CEO doesn’t doom the company or actually in any way fix the problem of poor customer satisfaction. They are just going to keep on being shitty and hire bodyguards for the next CEO
UHC is the shittiest company in a sector full of shitty companies but they weren’t failing in earnings and shooting the CEO doesn’t doom the company or actually in any way fix the problem of poor customer satisfaction. They are just going to keep on being shitty and hire bodyguards for the next CEO
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 6:48 am
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:52 am to MikeyFL
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Or maybe they personally know someone whose death was directly attributable to the warped priorities in our healthcare system.
So, the answer is murder?
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Our current bloated healthcare system has neither price transparency nor a focus on healthcare as a public good. It simply incentivizes graft, corruption, and poor health outcomes.
I don't disagree with any of that.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:52 am to The Goat
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I believe now is the time for a separate, UHC/CEO Haiku thread.
He traded inside
He conventioned in New York.
He is at room temp
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:53 am to ghost2most
It appears the assassin had some surveillance assistance. How did the perp know when to show up
on site to carry out the crime after just leaving a nearby Starbucks?
Who was the perp communicating with on a cell phone just minutes prior to the shooting?
It seems there's more going on here than insurance claim denial and a disgruntled psychopath.
on site to carry out the crime after just leaving a nearby Starbucks?
Who was the perp communicating with on a cell phone just minutes prior to the shooting?
It seems there's more going on here than insurance claim denial and a disgruntled psychopath.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:00 am to Gaggle
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Domino’s fails to deliver reliable quality
Lava cakes are fire
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:07 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:... while achieving its goals and directives.
Some of you people just refuse to grasp that the job of a ceo of *any* company is to improve its finances. This is a basic rule.
For example, United Healthcare pushes hard to get older vets to sign up for UHC medicare supplements.
Why?
Because their demos show vets often seek care at a VA. Meanwhile, UHC successfully lobbied HHS to prevent the VA from billing private healthcare. So they lure typically moderate/low income vets into an insurance plan which they know in advance many will never use.
Here's another ...
They sign contracts with hospitals and physicians to reimburse a certain amount for a certain service, then try to pay a fraction of that agreed amount. If their foist is recognized (and sometimes it isn't) and if the medical bill is re-submitted to them, remittance inevitably comes as a fraction of the residual UHC still owes. It's stuff which can take months of wrangling until finally the remainder owed is small enough to make its pursuit unprofitable.
That's the genteel version.
Sans politesse, here is the perspective you've missed.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:11 am to Chicken
Thoughts and copays to the family.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:15 am to Gaggle
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They are just going to keep on being shitty and hire bodyguards for the next CEO
Truest statement i have read so far in this thread .
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:15 am to Gaggle
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And yet Comcast and Domino’s fails to deliver reliable quality internet and pizza and have notoriously poor customer satisfaction and their earnings don’t go bad.
That's only "good" so long as someone doesn't provide better service, providing an opening for market share loss and lower earnings. The point is it's only good until it's not.
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UHC is the shittiest company in a sector full of shitty companies but they weren’t failing in earnings and shooting the CEO doesn’t doom the company or actually in any way fix the problem of poor customer satisfaction.
Health insurance companies exist because they have a heavily funded lobby in DC, deep pockets, and multiple people in congress to champion them. They're a horrible example of free market capitalism. You're right abt their earnings not changing, their stock price actually went up after the CEO was shot.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:19 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Some of you people just refuse to grasp that the job of a ceo of *any* company is to improve its finances. This is a basic rule.
Read the last part of the last sentence in that quote you posted and ask yourself if insurance companies do this.
The mega corps routinely flout the spirit, if not the letter of the law, pay the fine, if even punished and continue on as nothing happened.
I'm as guilty as anyone else, I'm sure I have shares of UHG in one of my funds.
Blindly cheerleading for companies like this is just willful ignorance in my opinion. Things have shifted so far in their favor, there is absolutely zero legal recourse to turn the tide. Therefore, things like this happen.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 7:20 am
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:21 am to 62Tigerfan
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How did the perp know when to show up
Witnesses say he hung around the building for hours prior to the murder.
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Who was the perp communicating with on a cell phone just minutes prior to the shooting?
Could be using it as cover and not really on a call? If I was on a call, I would have used AirPods to keep my hands clear
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It seems there's more going on here than insurance claim denial and a disgruntled psychopath.
I certainly agree this guy was motivated by something greater than an individual motive. This was cold and calculated, most “aggrieved” murderers are far more impulsive
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:24 am to kywildcatfanone
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He was facing insider trading probe, so probably a stock holder.
Look at BlackRock, Vanguard, and StateStreet positions in UNH, as well as some of the Sr members of the Senate for your answer
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:27 am to BourreTheDog
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Look at BlackRock, Vanguard, and StateStreet positions in UNH, as well as some of the Sr members of the Senate for your answer
I highly doubt they had anything to do with this.
It was most likely a consumer with a vengeance.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:34 am to Hangit
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Haiku thread
Brian Thompson dead
Investors to be misled
Watch out for e-bike
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:35 am to TripleBarrelBluff1
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It was most likely a consumer with a vengeance.
…… and building 7 just collapsed, the airliner that hit the pentagon just mysteriously vaporized, and Oswald acted alone. Got it!
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:36 am to TripleBarrelBluff1
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It was most likely a consumer with a vengeance.
insider job carried out by his partners in crime. Made to look like a disgruntled policyholder whose family member was denied care
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 7:40 am
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:36 am to BourreTheDog
Ole CEO was probably friends with RFK and was about to blow the whistle on the true number of COVID Vax injuries
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:37 am to BourreTheDog
That's not even it. Those companies being the largest shareholders have enough pull to get him replaced if they really wanted to. To think they'd risk offing him on a public street in NYC is just kind of silly.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:39 am to MikeyFL
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Our current bloated healthcare system has neither price transparency nor a focus on healthcare as a public good. It simply incentivizes graft, corruption, and poor health outcomes.
Well said
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