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re: Unemployed Americans Endure Longer Job Searches in a Cooling Market

Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73245 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:13 pm to
I completely agree with this, but for consistency’s sake, I’m downvoting it anyway and assuming you just copied it from someone with common sense.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133634 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:17 pm to
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more than 1.8 million people who have been job hunting for at least 27 weeks now represent a quarter of unemployed people,
Totally useless number. Many people are "job hunting" while they still have a job.

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The median length of unemployment in the U.S. has also ticked up, from a seasonally adjusted 9.5 weeks in July 2024 to 10.2 weeks last month.

Notice it's "median" not "average."

There are three types of lies: 1) lies, 2) damn lies, and, 3) statistics.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11863 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:18 pm to
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WFH led to lower productivity


It depends on how they’re measuring productivity and this is also not the case for every firm/industry. You topically only see significant productivity increases during recessions for obvious reasons.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
58936 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:18 pm to
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How much of this tariff BS is really about American manufacturing jobs?



It's all bullshite. It's just a good political slogan that works on people
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73204 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:35 pm to
I never said it was “helping” little guys.

I’m just confused why you are claiming that a 15% tariff on the records is equivalent to the total costs of running your business increasing 15%.

We have ample data via the nber and other Econ research orgs showing that prices increase about 1% for every 10% tariff.

The reason there is not a 1:1 ratio between tariffs and consumer prices is not rocket science: tariffs represent a cost increase on only one aspect of running a business.

It’s part of the reason why economists are skeptical that a 15% tariff is going to impact the economy much besides being an annoying new sales tax. Most businesses that buy part(s) subject to a 15% tariff will be able to get away with only negligible price increases to make up for it.

If trump came out tomorrow and announced he has made a deal with the whole world and is setting tariffs at 15%, the market would go up a lot. Because investors and economists know it would only marginally harm the economy
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
14753 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:37 pm to
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know that but it takes years to go from apprentice to skilled worker


Took me about 4 years. Was totally worth it though. Out here industrial electricians are in pretty high demand
This post was edited on 8/3/25 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
3138 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:39 pm to
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As it should be. It was never meant to be a permanent fix. If everyone was so productive from home and team chemistry and departmental synergy stayed consistent, you wouldn’t see so many CEOs mandating employees back in the office. Adults, like kids need to be supervised. For every 1 employee that’s excels from home, there’s 20 more at the dog park, playing golf, or doing the bare minimum required during the work week. It is what it is.


My job consisted of at least three days a week of watching various recorded city and county meetings online and then writing a written summary about them. That could have been done from anywhere at anytime of the day, but my almost 70 year old boss insisted it be done in the office during rigid office hours. I quit the job as soon as I realized I didn’t need the money anymore.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73204 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:40 pm to
The number one reason why the “length” of unemployment has increased since January is because of all the unemployed federal workers who are obviously a lot more picky than an unskilled worker when looking for a new job.

White collar unemployed folks generally have enough savings to hold out longer, and it’s obviously going to take longer to find a professional white collar job than to find a retail, food service, etc type job.

Continuing jobless claims are about where they were in 2024 when you remove the tri state data (VA, MD, DC).
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
3138 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:41 pm to
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Plenty of high paying skilled blue collar jobs available


Good to know that the world still needs ditch diggers.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
3138 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:46 pm to
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How much of this tariff BS is really about American manufacturing jobs?


Aren’t we all hoping that American teens get the opportunity to someday assembly athletic shoes, print t-shirts, and stitch baseballs like kids in Asian countries?
Posted by Yakker
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2025
178 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:48 pm to
Anyone blame the Boomers yet?

That seems to be a popular excuse as of lately.
Posted by Yakker
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2025
178 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:50 pm to
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unemployed federal workers who are obviously a lot more picky than an unskilled worker


Federal workers are skilled?

LMAO
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73204 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:53 pm to
…..yes?

You think federal employees are not white collar?
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
14753 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:56 pm to
Why would anyone hire a lazy arse federal worker? Lol.

Yea that laid off USAID worker will be a fine addition to the crew.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9048 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:58 pm to
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I’m just confused why you are claiming that a 15% tariff on the records is equivalent to the total costs of running your business increasing 15%.


When did I say the 15% tariffs increase the total costs of the business by 15%?

What I said is actually worse.

Oversimplified and just for example:

Say, I now buy $10,000 used records. Sell them for $13,000. $3000 profit

15% tariff means I buy $10,000 used records. Pay $1500 extra tariff tax. Sell them for $13,000. $1500 profit


Agree it doesn't hurt giant companies as much as small businesses. But that was kind of my point. All of this BS is big business friendly and frick the little guy. Small businesses just don't have lots of extra ways to make up for $1000s of dollars of added costs.

I'll try to raise prices a bit with a specific note on the price tags that the higher prices are due to the current tariffs.


But, people can't always just spend more. So, the main answer will be to "help American workers" by cutting back their hours.



Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73204 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 2:07 pm to
What percent of your total costs are the records you buy from Europe?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 2:36 pm to
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Took me about 4 years. Was totally worth it though. Out here industrial electricians are in pretty high demand


Agreed and you emphasize the point that there aren’t going to be quick fixes to skilled labor shortages.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9048 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 2:41 pm to
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What percent of your total costs are the records you buy from Europe?



The only question that matters to the person writing rent and paychecks is the exact amount it affects the bottom line. So the pertinent question is:

What percent of my gross that I use to write all those checks comes from selling imported used records?

That's about 40% right now. 15% tariffs will cut that revenue stream by 60-75% unless I raise retail prices.

It just doesn't get any simpler than that. Anything else is losing the plot which seems to be a common feature of "economics."

I'm not trying to just complain because I will adjust -- although a big part of that will be cutting staff/hours.

I'm just providing an actual example of how all this tariff BS can effect a real small business and not just whether it makes some billionaire stockholders tick Walmart stock up or down.



Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
75886 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 2:47 pm to
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This is probably why my company felt comfortable to recently tell my division we're back to 4 days a week in the office, despite zero actual need to do so. Where else are we going to go?
People don’t want to admit this but people as a whole are far more productive in the office than at home. Yes you’ll have the occasional person who does better at home, but 90% of “adults” need the supervision and structure to perform their jobs well.

My job just started making 4 days in office mandatory last year, and the kids fresh out of college bitched and moaned and said “I work better at home!”
Well the company had its best fiscal year in sales ever after making people come back into the office. So it works
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
4481 posts
Posted on 8/3/25 at 2:54 pm to
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My job just started making 4 days in office mandatory last year, and the kids fresh out of college bitched and moaned and said “I work better at home!” Well the company had its best fiscal year in sales ever after making people come back into the office. So it works


Well, in their defense every company also touted best fiscal year sales the year after they sent workers home too.
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