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re: Ukraine use American weapons to kill civilians at a beach

Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:50 am to
Posted by TygerLyfe
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:50 am to
As Henry Kissinger once said, "why can't they both lose?"
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31585 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:56 am to
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As a big trump the fan, the trump fan boys who are pro putin/Russia are enough to make me not want to vote this election. Pretty sad most are pro putin/Russia just because Biden supports Ukraine

The people you are describing are pro-Putin because they view him as an ally in the Culture War. As much as they claim to be “America first”, if they were truly honest with themselves, they are wishcasting for an American collapse to pave the way for a “return of traditional values” that, amazingly, they view Putin as a paragon of.
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 11:52 am
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
12737 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:59 am to
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you make no attempt to defend Russia’s unprovoked invasion of a peaceful Ukraine that presented no threat to Russia.


Dude, when you frame it like that you are announcing to everyone that you really aren’t a serious person.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85843 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:01 am to
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Pardon me while I don't care. frick Russia. Don't invade sovereign nations and you won't get your beach vacations disrupted.


So when someone from the Middle East conducts a terror attack in the US.

It’s because we invaded sovereign nations right?

Or is that different?
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 11:02 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85843 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:03 am to
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Russia brought this war upon themselves. The fault rests in Moscow



More like we brought it to Russia.

It’s just when we do it we call it bringing democracy.
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 11:05 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:08 am to
Well the warmonger thread would just call them orcs and say they deserved it, so whatever.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20565 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:09 am to
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More like we brought it to Russia.

Day 850 of Russia could withdraw whenever they wanted to
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:10 am to
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Maybe don't vacation near the most active war zone on the planet right now... I mean, Crimea was stolen 10 years ago and it's been hotly contested with active missile strikes all the time for 2 years now. If Gulf Shores was under attack from Mississippi, to give its citizens a better beach to vacation at, I sure as frick wouldn't haul my family down for a vacation.



That’s what Hamas supporters said by Israelis going to a music festival after they were killed, raped, and burned alive.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:11 am to
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Day 850 of Russia could withdraw whenever they wanted to


So let’s just keep on killing millions of Ukrainians and Russians in a war that Ukraine can’t win and Russia isn’t going anywhere. The Hamasniks don’t give one damn about this genocide, but killing a bunch of terrorists is inexcusable.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:12 am to
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That’s what Hamas supporters said by Israelis going to a music festival after they were killed, raped, and burned alive.


Exactly. They don’t realize how comically evil they are.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:12 am to
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The people you are describing are pro-Putin because they view him as an ally in the Culture War. As much as they claim to be “America first”, if they were truly honest with themselves, they are wishcasting for an American collapse to pave the war for a “return of traditional values” that, amazingly, they view Putin as a paragon of.


Russia and Ukraine are literally the same people one is just on our side.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31585 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:14 am to
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More like we brought it to Russia.

It’s interesting that some of you justify Russia intentionally bombing civilian targets in another sovereign nation because “we got too close to them”, while in the same breath comparing said sovereign nation to terrorist organizations when they, most likely, unintentionally hit a civilian target of the nation that is currently actively invading them because “we got too close to them”.

I wonder if it hurts to create that much of a mental pretzel.
Posted by Mud_Bone
Member since Dec 2021
2357 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:14 am to
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Didn’t the US stop using/proliferating cluster munitions in the 90s?


Yeah, they store it in the warehouse right next to the Willy Pete!
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:14 am to
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Exactly. They don’t realize how comically evil they are.


Literally the Spider-Man meme then call us morons for pointing out the blatant hypocrisy. Between this and the Palestine war and how people have such a cognitive dissonance on reality shows why things are the way they are on this country.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31585 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:16 am to
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Russia and Ukraine are literally the same people one is just on our side.

Even if that’s accepted as true, only one of them actively calls for the downfall of America. Thus the wishcasting.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:18 am to
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It’s interesting that some of you justify Russia intentionally bombing civilian targets in another sovereign nation because “we got too close to them”, while in the same breath comparing said sovereign nation to terrorist organizations when they, most likely, unintentionally hit a civilian target of the nation that is currently actively invading them because “we got too close to them”. I wonder if it hurts to create that much of a mental pretzel.


We’re helping Ukraine because Russia is evil so if Ukraine becomes Russia to hurt Russia how are they any better and it justifies targeting civilians.


I used to wonder how genocide and world war use to happen. I used to believe its was because of mad men like Stalin, Mao, and Hitler but nope it’s literally the people they want this and rejoice in it be were the good guys and they deserve it because of who they are.
Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
2639 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:19 am to
Ukraine isn't the "good team" here. That lie was pushed pretty heavily by our self-anointed moral police early in the conflict, and the process of de-simpifying the USA will be a slow one.

It's similar to 9/11. It took at least 10-20 years before people were able to look back and admit that we'd done some really stupid shite that made some equally stupid people (Rumsfeld, Toby Keith...) very rich. Oh, and we borrowed the money to do it.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20565 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:19 am to
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So let’s just keep on killing millions of Ukrainians and Russians in a war that Ukraine can’t win and Russia isn’t going anywhere.

Let's = let us. We aren't doing shite
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:21 am to
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Even if that’s accepted as true, only one of them actively calls for the downfall of America. Thus the wishcasting.


Besides the Cuban missile crisis how has Russia ever pushed the downfall of America.


What bases does Russia have in this hemisphere, what nations have Russia propped up to hurt us through proxy, what sanctions has Russia out of the U.S. before this war, and what radical groups have Russia funded to hurt America.


Or is this all being done in countries far away from us where we don’t belong.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:23 am to
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Ukraine isn't the "good team" here. That lie was pushed pretty heavily by our self-anointed moral police early in the conflict, and the process of de-simpifying the USA will be a slow one. It's similar to 9/11. It took at least 10-20 years before people were able to look back and admit that we'd done some really stupid shite that made some equally stupid people (Rumsfeld, Toby Keith...) very rich. Oh, and we borrowed the money to do it.


Definitely literally falling for the same trick. I wonder what going to happen with the moderate extremist we armed and trained after this war fails no way they turn into the Taliban and ISiS who we used too.
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