re: Ukraine say U.S. tanks are ineffective and armor is useless

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I was not precise with my language, that's my fault, I meant it's 45 days for basic training now

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Tankers dont go though a separate basic training then AIT. We go though what’s called OSUT (one station unit training) that is specific to being a tanker. Infantry, Cav, and Artillery also have their own version of OSUT. Aspects of what most would call normal “basic training” are incorporated into OSUT.

For tankers it’s 15 weeks. For infantry and Cav, it’s 22 weeks, while for artillery it’s 19 weeks.

All they’re achieving with 45 days of training is feeding the meat grinder with more bodies.

ETA: non-combat arms MOS do go though a generic “basic training” that I think is 8 weeks long. When they finish that, they then go to what’s called AIT (advanced individual training). This is a school where they learn whatever specialized MOS they’ve gone into. For example, all tank mechanics go to the same US Army Armor School as tankers. But instead of training to fight on the tank, they train to maintain and repair tanks. The Army operates different non-combat arms MOS schools at different bases. So, for example, if you join to be an MP, after basic training they’ll send you to Fort Leonard Wood for MP school, or Fort Bliss for medics school, etc.

Hence why we stopped using them long ago

Its probably their shitty personnel.

Pulling the old Oskar Schindler on them I see.

Honestly, I thought it was interesting when this all started and it was a "traditional" war. I thought that was for 3rd world countries considering the technology available today.

This reminds me, last night the movie Edward Snowden was on and I watched the majority of it. I watched it once, right when it was available on whatever platform it came out first on (I think HBO). He talks about how the US had the ability to cut off an entire country's electricity (countrbies who are our allies, Japan, etc, etc. The idea was that just in case one day they are no longer our allies then we would have leverage over them).

I also found it interesting that when they introduced Japan to what we were doing, they were impressed by the abilities of drones, but was not at all impressed with the idea of being able to monitor its citizens because it goes against their citizens liberties.. which made me think about how much bullshite is fed to us... the US citizens. The US government don't give a single frick about our liberties. Here its just a perception. And for the first time I became convinced there will be an uprising in the US because there is the idea of the US of A, which is great.. Then there is the reality of the US of A.. And its nothing like the idea. And as crazy as it sounds, I am convinced that the US government (or those within) wants the majority of the citizens to be just educated enough to do a job and to fill the rest of their life with low level entertainment because they can't have too many people asking questions..

The Ukraine situation is a situation I think is one that they don't want too many people asking "is something more than what we see going on?".

That is because we are sending them our old shite and replenishing it with new equipment for our army and new kickbacks for our politicians.

theyre saying a lot of obvious shite like the tank is the #1 target and if hit the crew inside is likely killed.

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And Ukraine is on the hook for repaying all that money thus turning them into a US serf state for the next 200 years, if they even win.

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Ukraine is the only country that regressed post Soviet Union they are never paying that back

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Turkmenistan says hold my beer.

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they at least have a dictator to blame