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re: UK Mail: North Korea shows off special forces armed with "grenade launchers"

Posted on 4/17/17 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16556 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

What I want to know is why is it so important to so many that for once I was wrong about something? So, I didn't know NK has developed this version of an AK? I'm not some all-knowing being. There are things I don't know and there are things I'm going to be incorrect upon. I know this comes as a shock to some, why I don't know.


You do this shite to yourself.
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26924 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 12:47 pm to
Just because the article says grenade launchers, doesn't mean they are grenade launchers...The Daily Mail, while entertaining, is not known for pulitzer prize writers...
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39863 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

This is why we can't have nice things around here. Was supposed to be a funny thread about this article saying NK special forces armed with "grenade launchers" turns into a gotchafest.


You thought it was a faux grenade launcher

People proved you wrong

You argued with them and said you had superior knowledge and therefore couldn't be wrong

You deserve every laugh aimed at your way. It isn't a "gotcha", it's just facts. No one is out to get you no matter how important you think you are.


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Chicken




This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72286 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

When someone posted the link showing precisely what weapon it was, your response was to argue the specifics of an SMG vs a rifle instead of admitting you were wrong about the weapon just like the author of the caption.


The link you're talking about was to a different weapon from the ones those soldiers are carrying.

I've admitted multiple times I was wrong about the rifle. So why can't you admit you're wrong about the SMG?

You're so adamant to get me to admit I was wrong. Fair enough. I was wrong. Are you ready to admit you're wrong about the difference between the Type 88 and the PP-19?

BTW, since it's so important for people to admit when they're wrong, where is the outrage against all the one's who claimed those were PP-19's when they're clearly not? Why do they get a pass?
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39863 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

You're so adamant to get me to admit I was wrong. Fair enough. I was wrong. Are you ready to admit you're wrong about the difference between the Type 88 and the PP-19?


quote:

where is the outrage against all the one's who claimed those were PP-19's when they're clearly not? Why do they get a pass?


Because the Type 88 is a knock off of a PP-19 and not an AK-47 with a zip-tied PVC pipe.
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
72286 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

You didn't even think there was a trigger. The place where a finger goes.


I didn't think there was a trigger for what the article claimed was a grenade launcher. The trigger you can see is clearly for the rifle portion of what the article claimed was a "grenade launcher".
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Member since Feb 2006
59085 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 12:54 pm to
Just LOLd at my desk.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72286 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 12:56 pm to
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Because the Type 88 is a knock off of a PP-19 and not an AK-47 with a zip-tied PVC pipe.


I've seen Type 88's with the regular banana magazine. I've never seen it with a tubular magazine.

And BTW, the Type 88 is a knock off of the AK-74, not the PP-19. This is what a normal Type 88 looks like....



LINK

Care to admit you're wrong about it being a "knock-off" of the PP-19?

By the way, the Type 88 predates the PP-19 by almost a decade.
LINK

(I'll wait on you to admit you're wrong.)
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 1:00 pm
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

And BTW, the Type 88 is a knock off of the AK-47, not the PP-19.


Hey guyz. See anything wrong here?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72286 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Hey guyz. See anything wrong here?


I transposed the 7 and 4.

I was wrong.

(I'll fix my mistake. Thank you for pointing it out)
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 1:00 pm
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
113959 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 12:59 pm to
quote:


BTW, since it's so important for people to admit when they're wrong, where is the outrage against all the one's who claimed those were PP-19's when they're clearly not? Why do they get a pass?


Maybe because both are AK platforms with helical magazines. When you first glance at the photos it appears they are carrying PP-19s.

quote:

It is based on the AKS-74 and features a 60% parts commonality with the assault rifle


So a PP-19 is based on the AKS-74... and a Type 88 is an AK-74 knock-off. So there are a lot of similarities between the two.

And nothing at all to do with fake grenade launchers.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

You're so adamant to get me to admit I was wrong. Fair enough. I was wrong. Are you ready to admit you're wrong about the difference between the Type 88 and the PP-19? BTW, since it's so important for people to admit when they're wrong, where is the outrage against all the one's who claimed those were PP-19's when they're clearly not? Why do they get a pass?


A) I didn't have an opinion on the weaponry one way or the other.

B) If someone makes a thread saying "LOL look at these PP-19s" and it turns out they're actually Type 88s, then you'd have a point. Otherwise, you're the OP who was wrong, so you're the one who has to deal with it.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
22802 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Like, I get that war is hell and people would die, but I think it would be hilarious to see these people fight the Chinese or something. For all their pomp and boasting, could they even pretend to fight a real war?


Just watch the NK army videos on YouTube. It's gold, Jerry! Gold!
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 1:01 pm
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
113959 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:01 pm to
quote:


And BTW, the Type 88 is a knock off of the AK-74, not the PP-19. This is what a normal Type 88 looks like....


Both the Type 88 and PP-19 are based off the AK-74.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72286 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Maybe because both are AK platforms with helical magazines. When you first glance at the photos it appears they are carrying PP-19s.


Guess I'm getting out of date because I've never seen a Type 88 before today with a tubular magazine. Be honest, have you?

You thought they were PP-19's. Why can't you admit you were wrong? I've admitted I was wrong that I thought they were trying to pass them off as grenade launchers, as the article claimed. So why can't you admit you were likewise wrong?

Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
65345 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:04 pm to
This doofus went back and edited his post to AK-47.

shite happens when you cut and paste for a living.


...and he changed it back to 74. Way to go.
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 1:07 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120284 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:04 pm to
Darth, I do not have the knowledge on these weapons to know what is what, but I do know one thing. This thread didn't go the way you hoped.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65359 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:05 pm to
I can see the errors here. Article says they are grenade launchers, Darth says, them ain't no grenade launchers. Technically he's right. But he botches the actual gun. Because it is a real working gun. Just not the one the article claims. In his defense I actually thought it was a shitty fake grenade launcher also.

Resolution: Everybody wins here. Let's all go home now.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72286 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

This doofus went back and edited his post to AK-47


Apparently it's quite easy to transpose the 7 and 4 in AK-74, seeing how you did it in your post that I've quoted.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

I've admitted I was wrong that I thought they were trying to pass them off as grenade launchers, as the article claimed. So why can't you admit you were likewise wrong?


you have forgotten as much about guns as i know about.

You remember saying this?
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