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Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:07 am to RummelTiger
They’re treating it like any other new virus that shows up and not panicking. Seems logical.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:07 am to baldona
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if we have a lengthened curve one could very easily argue that for non Covid ICU care the USA method is MORE dangerous as instead of 2-3 weeks of overworked healthcare we will have 2-3 months.
No.
If we flatten the curve...our healthcare system will be able to better manage the COVID-19 cases that do come in. It can handle a trickle, it CANNOT handle a flood.
Yall don't realize that most hospital ICUs this time of year are still at almost max capacity normally due to respiratory season,etc. Slamming the healthcare system with a massive amount of COVID-19 patients right now....will have horrific outcomes.
And that isn't just the ICUs...the entire healthcare system will be overwhelmed. It will impact so many aspects of a hospital.
We do NOT want this to happen.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:09 am to Sidicous
Dr. Fauci’s medical opinion is that you DO develop substantial immunity after first infection.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:10 am to RummelTiger
The "its just a cold" crew will love this
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:10 am to lsunurse
quote:It handled an extra 300k over 9 months with clusters popping up in 2009 with swine.
It can handle a trickle, it CANNOT handle a flood.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:12 am to MaxDraft
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"herd immunity"
The problem with this is if everyone gets it at the same time, health care services become inundated, ICUs become overwhelmed, mortality rates spike.
TLDR; #FlattenTheCurve
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:12 am to OceanTiger1
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The social isolation they want us to do is not going to stop this virus at all.
It isn’t intended to stop it. It is intended to slow walk the virus so healthcare system doesn’t collapse.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:12 am to OceanTiger1
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Sadly I think this is the better way to do it. Medical experts are saying we're all going to get it at some point. Just have us all get it and that way we get it out of our system sooner and our system becomes immune.
Dumb.
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The social isolation they want us to do is not going to stop this virus at all. It's just going to string the whole thing out and shut down our economy even longer.
Duh. That is the point. Please read up on the topic before posting.
We don’t have the medical capacity to “all get it at once”.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:13 am to ell_13
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It handled an extra 300k over 9 months
You have to stop comparing apples to oranges here. This is NOT swine flu.
Please tell me you at least understand the basic concept of overwhelming a healthcare system all at once vs over several months?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:17 am to ell_13
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It handled an extra 300k over 9 months with clusters popping up in 2009 with swine.
4,000 people died during that outbreak. The people acting like that was a win are fricking moonbats
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:18 am to baldona
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Yeah but that would only be for a short period of time right? With the USA approach, if we have a lengthened curve one could very easily argue that for non Covid ICU care the USA method is MORE dangerous as instead of 2-3 weeks of overworked healthcare we will have 2-3 months.
This.
Our hospital had 10 people waiting for beds before this outbreak started. Most in the area are like that too. The correct thing to do would have been to make it known this is serious, take proper precautions, but not put life on hold for who knows how long
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:20 am to Sidicous
Testing error is the most likely cause - not reinfection.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:21 am to WaydownSouth
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Our hospital had 10 people waiting for beds before this outbreak started. Most in the area are like that too. The correct thing to do would have been to make it known this is serious, take proper precautions, but not put life on hold for who knows how long
So you are saying that your hospital already can't handle the demand for care...but will be able to handle the massive influx of patients that WILL happen if everyone gets COVID-19 at once???
Your post makes no sense.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:24 am to lsunurse
Yup. Unless you shut it all down and quarantine everyone. Canceling sporting events just alter where the people transmit the virus.
Its mostly hospitalizing people with underlying conditions that would likely end up in the hospital anyway from a COPD exacerbation, or something else
Its mostly hospitalizing people with underlying conditions that would likely end up in the hospital anyway from a COPD exacerbation, or something else
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:24 am to lsunurse
Well I for one ain't staying home. Work during week from home but will still be enjoying the outdoors in my off time. Yesterday had the river to myself.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:28 am to MaxDraft
Except by EVERY standard, the UK is miles and miles past the US in their pursuit of socialism. That said, it will be interesting to compare the stoic approach to the hibernation approach over the long term and compare.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:30 am to Nado Jenkins83
quote:How dare you!?
Work during week from home but will still be enjoying the outdoors in my off time. Yesterday had the river to myself.
We need the government to be flying drones with one-way audio telling people to stay inside their houses or throw them in a gulag!
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:31 am to WaydownSouth
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Yup. Unless you shut it all down and quarantine everyone. Canceling sporting events just alter where the people transmit the virus.
Its mostly hospitalizing people with underlying conditions that would likely end up in the hospital anyway from a COPD exacerbation, or something else
Likely end up in a hospital? Wtf? We just throw our hands up and say “these old sick fricks we’re gonna die anyway. Let all head to the Pelicans game!!!!”
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:33 am to MightyYat
Nope do what we can. Not worth people potentially losing jobs over and tanking the economy over
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