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re: Uh oh OT, an even more effective weight loss drug in testing..a pill this time

Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:36 pm to
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I wonder if this eliminates the stomach paralysis issue since it doesn't involve sticking needles in your belly?


has nothing to do with taking a subq shot and you can take the shot where ever you want, just stomach is easiest

and stomach paralysis is very very rare. about as rare as death from actual covid

and most of the time its a side effect from jumping to the highest dose asap and continuing to eat like a fat frick. the medicine tends to punish you if you continue to eat like a fatty. its designed to do that
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:36 pm to
People have to take a pill to lose 5-15% of their weight?

Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23651 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:37 pm to
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Uh oh OT, an even more effective weight loss drug in testing..a pill this time




I'm on enough pills right now, what's one more?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38031 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:39 pm to
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I'm amazed at our ability to not address the underlying issues: diet, exercise, sleep.


one of the underlying issues with diet when it comes to the obese is lower glp1 levels. thats why bringing those levels up works so well for weight loss

its just replacement therapy.


oh and yall do know that fatties that lose weight without the drug....they have loose skin too right?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:41 pm to
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People have to take a pill to lose 5-15% of their weight?
in 3 months.

the weight loss continues if you continue to take it
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45556 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:42 pm to
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What are y'all going to do when you can't tell if the chick you're trying to date is on it?


Make sure that she remembers to pick up her prescription.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:44 pm to
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eel like they could’ve drawn this on a chalkboard and said “oh if we block ghrelin it’s gonna mess this other stuff up too”

These are the same corporations that in the 80’s created Rimonabant to block the endocannabinoid system as an appetite suppressant.

People literally died before the APPROVALS (plural) were pulled worldwide, the FDA being one of the last.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:47 pm to
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This is how you taint your gene pool. I was able to select a mate to reproduce children that would be a good combo of our genes. Now guys are gonna be having kids that plump up and not understand why.



I can't understand why skinny parents have big ole fat kids.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:50 pm to
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in 3 months. the weight loss continues if you continue to take it


Seems like what you’d lose doing calorie reduction in same amount of time.
Posted by mt1
LV
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:52 pm to
Who are you and what did you do with el Gaucho?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38031 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:00 pm to
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Seems like what you’d lose doing calorie reduction in same amount of time.


what do you think the medicines do?

GLP-1 is an active hormone in the body. those that are obese have suppressed levels. imo its from over riding the signal over and over but we arent sure on that yet.

raising those levels, fixes the desire to overeat

kind of like for many men...fixing testosterone levels makes them horny and not such a beta bitch.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:05 pm to
Ok.

So you're saying a 260lb person can expect to lose 39lbs in 3 months just by counting calories and another 36lbs in the following 3 months?


Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20248 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:06 pm to
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an average of 10.4% of their body weight over three months.


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twice as much, the maximum dose tested, shed 13.1%.


ROI definitely not there for the double dose.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20248 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:09 pm to
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What are y'all going to do when you can't tell if the chick you're trying to date is on it?


why would this matter?


1. Rebound weight when they inevitably get off of it
2. Hiding historical disgusting lifestyle, which is an indication of poor personal responsibility
3. The potential for serious side effects one day down the line (hypothetical)


Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93292 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:10 pm to
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ROI definitely not there for the double dose.
absolutely. you'll look like skeletor; your body doesn't have time to adjust for dropping weight that quickly.

10% is pushing it unless you're also bulking up on protein and lifting like crazy.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20248 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:16 pm to
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oh and yall do know that fatties that lose weight without the drug....they have loose skin too right?



Good friend is plastic surgeon and we talked about this.

She said it is much more pronounced due to the rapidity of the weight loss. The elasticity of the skin can keep up with normal diet and exercise weight loss much better. Of course massive weight loss still has loose skin, but not as much if you don't lose it as fast.

She also said once it's loose, it doesn't really recover without surgery. So it isn't like loose skin from weight loss drugs will catch up to loose skin of natural weight loss.

She ALSO said there are things she does for Ozempic people to really help the skin thing as they go through treatment (lasers, creams, etc.) and it's basically identical to what pregnant women do.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26316 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:17 pm to
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Ok. So you're saying a 260lb person can expect to lose 39lbs in 3 months just by counting calories and another 36lbs in the following 3 months?


I was 200lbs and 5’7”. I lost 10 lbs in 3 weeks. 20lbs in 2 months. A total of 50lbs in 6 months. This was doing Weight Watchers in 2001 when they used the “point system” which was an easy way to implement caloric deficit. I also went to the gym 3 days a week. My wife lost similar, though it took her a bit longer.

Eventually I became a “lifetime member” (I think you had to maintain weight for 6 months) and they ask that you give a speech to the group. So I told this group of 90% fat ladies my secret. “I’ve been fricking hungry for a year! I eat a god damned English Muffin and an apple for breakfast.” The people who ran the group weren’t happy with my answer, lol.

So laugh if you want but no pill or injection was required. But no hate on those who take something if it helps them.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38031 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:21 pm to
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Good friend is plastic surgeon and we talked about this.

She said it is much more pronounced due to the rapidity of the weight loss. The elasticity of the skin can keep up with normal diet and exercise weight loss much better. Of course massive weight loss still has loose skin, but not as much if you don't lose it as fast.


yea its a couple things

1) the drastic caloric deficit
2) lack of resistance training
3) lack of protein

the medicine if you are not taking the minimum effective dose, can have you loosing to fast. the key with the medication in Min effective dose combined with high protein, slight caloric deficit and resistance training

its not the medicine fault that people are stupid and abuse it

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She also said once it's loose, it doesn't really recover without surgery. So it isn't like loose skin from weight loss drugs will catch up to loose skin of natural weight loss.


that is true and its important in my opinion to take growth hormone peptides to keep IGF levels up along with ghk-cu to help skin elasticity while on the medicine or for anyone that needs to lose more than 50 lbs

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She ALSO said there are things she does for Ozempic people to really help the skin thing as they go through treatment (lasers, creams, etc.) and it's basically identical to what pregnant women do.


yea those things can help too


but its not the medicines fault, people are just dumb AF
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38031 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:24 pm to
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Rebound weight when they inevitably get off of it


thats not true, have studies showing its not and easily could stay in minimum dose. the medicine has other things it does that helps health.

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. Hiding historical disgusting lifestyle, which is an indication of poor personal responsibility


what if they just had low GLP1 levels naturally? essentially you dont have a clue wtf you are talking about

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. The potential for serious side effects one day down the line (hypothetical)


again...look at how rare these serious side effects occur

as far as them happening down the line... you sound like typical OT fricking idiot that doesnt understand shite


if you understood how GLP1 levels work in the body and how replacement works you wouldnt be saying half the stupid shite you have said
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38031 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:25 pm to
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I was 200lbs and 5’7”. I lost 10 lbs in 3 weeks. 20lbs in 2 months. A total of 50lbs in 6 months. This was doing Weight Watchers in 2001 when they used the “point system” which was an easy way to implement caloric deficit. I also went to the gym 3 days a week. My wife lost similar, though it took her a bit longer.

Eventually I became a “lifetime member” (I think you had to maintain weight for 6 months) and they ask that you give a speech to the group. So I told this group of 90% fat ladies my secret. “I’ve been fricking hungry for a year! I eat a god damned English Muffin and an apple for breakfast.” The people who ran the group weren’t happy with my answer, lol.


im laughing at you cause only a douche bag would use weight watchers as a male. jesus...why dont you announce to the whole world you like sucking dick?
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