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re: UAP Task Force Whistleblower Tells Congress About Our Secret UFO Program

Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:58 am to
Posted by LSUcam7
FL
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:58 am to
I guess as human we always try to make stories fit into our current understanding. When it doesn’t fit, we become highly skeptical as we’re also pretty arrogant.

We can’t even get on the same page as a country on basic shite. I’m not shocked that there’s a lot of push back.

I am shocked that there’s such disinterest though.

I’ve had several people tell me “even if this is real, it doesn’t affect me in any way.” It’s mind blowing to me that some think the potential acknowledgment of intelligent life beyond us humans would be insignificant news. I don’t know what to make of that.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:15 am to
quote:

I’ve had several people tell me “even if this is real, it doesn’t affect me in any way.” It’s mind blowing to me that some think the potential acknowledgment of intelligent life beyond us humans would be insignificant news. I don’t know what to make of that.


Most people are centered around:

Eating - currently highly processed shite, high jacked by folks who want to profit off of them
fricking - more and more vulgar and now digital (so you never even have to interact with another human if you don’t want to)
Fighting - escalating, now 24/7 with people you don’t know on SM…

We need a hard reset

If what is alleged is true, every aspect of our world and humanity changes…
Full stop
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:16 am to
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Full stop


I hope one of the great impactful changes is that people stop saying this phrase.
Posted by mjthe
Virginia
Member since Oct 2020
6870 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:20 am to
TPA is in heat

Only she can destroy the nonsense of that phrase - I'll allow it
Posted by Bucket
Member since Feb 2011
74 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:29 am to
Prior to the Wright brothers, sustained flight was thought impossible. The thing is, no one knows what they don't know.
Posted by Cycledude
Member since Jul 2018
1712 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:49 am to
There was a retired Army Colonial named Philip J Corso who claimed to have worked for the Army in a group tasked with gathering info on crashed UFO’s. He claimed some of our biggest advances were from reverse engineering. He wrote a couple of books about it in the 90’s . Said he was getting old and wanted the truth to come out before he died. Very similar stuff to what this man is saying. Art Bell interviewed him on his radio show. He sounded legit.
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
1352 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 5:28 pm to
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It’s mind blowing to me that some think the potential acknowledgment of intelligent life beyond us humans would be insignificant news.

It’s funny you think this is the mind blowing news. If true, secret elements in our country have deliberately mislead the public and their elected officials while spending our money.
Anyway, this sounds like a leak chase and this dude lapped it up.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38964 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 5:52 pm to
Zero reason to believe that if UFOs exist that they are not drones.
Posted by LSUcam7
FL
Member since Sep 2016
7903 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:07 pm to
NewsNation Update

Apparently the interview will be released Sunday. Full interview was 7hrs so likely a much shorter version.

NewsNation: Jeremy Corbell take
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 6:11 pm
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:18 pm to
Historically, how far ahead has the US Military been from the public? 30 years?

I mean. 30 year into the future tech would be like UFOs to the public.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
10594 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:39 pm to
Not even POTUS knows all
—-Boy, you got THAT right
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117687 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:47 pm to
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hope one of the great impactful changes is that people stop saying this phrase.


It’s the Jordan Peterson effect. It’s coupled with a whiny nasal tone string of run on sentences explaining why everything we bitch about is interrelated.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98178 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:42 pm to
JRE on the whistleblower LINK
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:59 am to
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O_ceEJUnETo

quote:

We are not alone: The UFO whistleblower speaks |
NewsNation Prime NewsNation 1.5K Likes 24,038 Views Jun 12 2023 #Prime #Whistleblower

In an exclusive interview on NewsNation, career intelligence official David Grusch makes the bombshell claim a U.S. government cover-up going back nearly a century sheds light, he says, on the existential question: Are we alone?


Summary from Reddit:

Whistleblower is an Airforce veteran, Military Intelligence, and worked on UAP task force.

Inspector General determined the whistle-blower complaint urgent and credible for Intelligence Committees

May not necessarily be extra-terrestrial, it's possible they may be interdimensional; in that, they may co-exist in our local environment in higher Dimensional spaces, which we can only indirectly perceive (time, gravity may exist as physical spaces in higher dimensions)

Craft are exotic in that; they exhibit specific isotopic ratios that require engineering and contain high order materials in relation to the periodic table (to the degree that we do not properly understand the emergent properties). Craft demonstarte sophisticated engineering not by humans.

The US Military has drawn some level of material technological practical scientific understanding of the craft but have been held back due to compartmentalisation and secrecy from academic community. The technology has the chance to revolutionise energy and vehicle propulsion

US Government has been involved in disemminating disinformation on the subject. A main goal was to make the subject in popular culture appear crazy. The cover-up extends almost 90 years into the past.

The first vehicle recovery was in Europe 1933 in Magenta, Italy. They recovered a partially intact vehicle which was moved into a secure facility until somewhere between 1944 and 1945. From there, THE POPE back channelled the information to the United States Government and the vehicle came into US possession.

Separately, there are Internal memos from the Mousillini regime demonstrate UAP knowledge, including a crude drawing of a craft.

The Roswell Incident was in fact a crashed vehicle which was recovered. Although meant to be thoroughly debunked, Grusch says this is was actually a part of systematic disinformation efforts from Military and Intelligence Groups.

Some recovered vehicles are crashed, some are landed. Despite advanced technology and higher sentience, it is still possible for some small percentage of operations to reach an unfortunate conclusion.

In 1967, a craft appeared over a nuclear Silo in Malstrom Air Force Base, Montana. It shut down ten Nuclear Inter Contintental Ballistic Missiles. Multiple veterans have come forward about this incident.

Recent declassified footage from the DoD is "just the tip of the ice berg". Grusch says some videos he has seem are concerning. There is a large discrepancy in the content between footage available to the public and that which is classified.

Some space craft are "very large" and "football field size".

Crash Retrival Programs have been active for a long time and have operated outside of jurisdiction of elected officials.

Some people involved in crash retrieval have been injured in their duties; radiation or exposure to other unknowns has seemed to have damaged some amount of people. At least one large aerospace company is involved in storing retrieved craft.

Some activity may appear to malevolent from a humanistic lense. The US at times has acted offensively against craft and have techniques to bring them down. People have been injured and killed at times.

China also has crash retrival programs. There may be something of a race to understand the nature of non-human intelligence, its implications and strategic opportunities.

They may be already be agreements between the US and Non-Human Intelligences. At least one human nuclear treaty references UAP presence at Nuclear facilities and creates avenues for communication between countries on such matters.

Criminal activity has not been verified but there are ongoing concerns that it was employed to keep UAP knowledge secret
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61476 posts
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:52 pm to
That link is marked private, here's a link from News Nation
LINK /

The part where he talks about non human intelligence:

quote:

Coulthart: The US Government has been concealing the existence on this planet of alien life
Grusch: I would couch it as non human intelligence, NHI as we like to say in our language.
Coulthart: Why do you say that? Why do you say NHI?
Grusch: I wouldn't necessarily denote origin. I don't think we have all the data to say "oh, they're coming from a certain location." And I couch it as somebody who studied physics where maybe they're coming from a different physical dimension as described in quantum mechanics. We know there are extra dimensions due to high energy particle collisions, etc. and there is a theoretical frame work to explain that.
Coulthart: Let me cut to the quick though. You're saying there is an intelligent species engaging with this planet.
Grusch: Yes, that's potentially extra terrestrial.


He has a few other statements on the inter dimensional angle too. As exotic and cool as that may be, to me the alien angle isn't why people should be upset that this alleged program is secret. This is the reason right here:

quote:

Grusch: It's totally nuts that humanity as a whole and especially the US citizenry as a whole, they're not even benefiting from broad research on this to solve propulsion, energy issues, novel material science that could improve people's quality of life. It's just totally nuts how it's been protected and inhibits progress.


Imagine a world where oil vs. solar/wind didn't matter because we had practically unlimited free energy from something like fusion. The powers that be enriching themselves on the status quo probably don't want to rush to that future, but most humans would gladly take it.
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