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Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:10 pm to blueridgeTiger
Wasn’t it the Governor the one who signed this thing into law in the first place?
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:11 pm to armsdealer
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The Governor made a meaningless, spineless statement
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:12 pm to Celery
No, Abbott left the lockdown decisions to the local government and made the reopening declaration himself.
Pretty shady, but it's time to reopen
Pretty shady, but it's time to reopen
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:12 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:13 pm to blueridgeTiger
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:15 pm to Cracker
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Can’t the gov just pardon her?
Not unilaterally. Of course he has power to grant pardons with a few exceptions (like treason) but the Texas Constitution requires him to respond to a written recommendation from a majority of the Board of Pardons and Paroles members.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:15 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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I guess my question here is what would be those less restrictive means? The lady said on camera that she wasn't going to pay the fine and she wasn't going to comply with the order to remain closed. Jailing is a super harsh punishment, but I don't really see what option the county judge had.
It's a fair point
In most such situation around the country, I'm sure this shite is being "enforced" by quiet dismissal of charges and telling people to be good citizens
But when the owner is being pretty noisy (not necessary blaming her) and this has become high profile, it does put the government in a tight spot considering she rejected all of the slap on the wrist punishments offered.
Fine someone struggling? Charitable requirement for someone out of work? Making someone apologize for trying to go to work? Jail?
I certainly don't condemn the lady, but from a "laws have to mean something" standard, it's a tough call.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:18 pm to Pettifogger
A simple $500 fine would have been sufficient but asking her to apologize for working is nothing more than a stroke to this judges ego
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:18 pm to Pettifogger
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I certainly don't condemn the lady, but from a "laws have to mean something" standard, it's a tough call.
I agree.
I think it sucks that she was fined and sentenced to jail, but going to the media and saying unequivocally that you aren't going to comply and you aren't going to pay the fine levied (without seeking an injunction or other relief from the order through proper procedure) then you are begging for the state to flex on you.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:20 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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but going to the media and saying unequivocally that you aren't going to comply and you aren't going to pay the fine levied
Was she given time to pay the fine? I know she said she wasn't paying it, but was she given a certain amount of days?
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:22 pm to YeahYeah
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Was she given time to pay the fine? I know she said she wasn't paying it, but was she given a certain amount of days?
Not sure on timing of the fine, but her contempt order was for refusing to shutdown I believe, not that her fine wasn't paid yet.
I think it was bush league for the judge to tell her to admit she was selfish. Asking for an apology and promise to comply in lieu of jail is fine, but telling her she has to say "I did it because I'm selfish" is bs.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:23 pm to YeahYeah
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asking her to apologize for working is nothing more than a stroke to this judges ego
Somewhat reminiscent of the old Soviet "Show Trials."
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:23 pm to blueridgeTiger
Go Texas
Screw La
Screw La
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:26 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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her contempt order was for refusing to shutdown I believe, not that her fine wasn't paid yet.
Then levy the fine and give her 30 days to pay it like they do with most other fines.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:27 pm to YeahYeah
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Then levy the fine and give her 30 days to pay it like they do with most other fines.
She had a cease and desist order from the court. Those usually come with much more than fines if violated and certainly come with more than fines if the violator is going on TV stating that she will continue violating.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:33 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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She had a cease and desist order from the court. Those usually come with much more than fines if violated and certainly come with more than fines if the violator is going on TV stating that she will continue violating.
There's probably a max on the amount you can fine someone for operating a business during the shutdown. Grandstanding is not normally against the law
According to link above, its $1000 and/or 180 days in jail
It appears violating the Texas Governor's EO is a Class B misdemeanor. That seems a little harsh
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:38 pm to Master of Sinanju
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Damn, IWHI too.
A single mom, middle-aged, hairdresser with a lot of miles on her, you can have that nightmare. She's a broken trainwreck.
Also you know if she was black, she would've been locked up and forgotten about, but she's blonde so the governor steps in.
How are those two Hispanic women from Houston who were locked up last week for dressing hair in their own homes doing? Governor isn't stepping in for them and they put even less people at risk.
F this crazy blonde. Keep her renegade arse locked up in gen pop.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 4:39 pm
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