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re: Two Tennessee Girls Basketball Teams Try to Lose
Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:23 am to tgrbaitn08
Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:23 am to tgrbaitn08
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national power Blackman
Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:30 am to tgrbaitn08
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When Riverdale got in the one and one they intentionally missed the free throws. They probably missed 12-16 free throws intentionally.
Okay but when they miss that many unintentionally it's fine? This stupid country.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:32 am to Green Chili Tiger
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Sounds like they have some issues with their bracket process. Just like in the nfl with the draft, if you incentivize a team to lose, then you can't blame them for doing it.
They would have to face Blackman at some point anyway. Pretty pathetic neither team would just face them early on in their bracket just so they would have the chance to say we lost to Blackman in the Championship. Both coaches should definitely be fired.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:33 am to Huey Lewis
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They probably missed 12-16 free throws intentionally.
DeAndre Jordan plays girls high school basketball?
Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:53 am to TheBoo
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Just flip the court and have them try to score for the other team.
Would have been fun to see the refs and scoreboard operator keep up with this one.
When you think about it, it would have been awesome because.
1. It would have been Make it / Take it, since they actually scored on the opponents goal
2. There would be basically a 10 second shot clock to score on the opponent's goal or it would be a backcourt violation (and there would be no 3 seconds in the lane
3. If the ball crossed halfcourt, you would basically have to "punt" it out of bounds to the other end, if you gained conrtol and try to steal it before it crossed halfcourt again ( or you would get a backcourt violation)
Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:54 am to anc
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Smyrna player was about to attempt a shot at the wrong basket
I'm literally laughing out loud at the thought of this. There's got to be better ways to try to lose than to be that blatant about it. It's against the spirit of competition and has not place in sports.......but I'm all for doing everything within the rules to win. It's not a written rule, but you know it's not going to sit right with everyone. Therefore, do it so that no one realizes and it doesn't get brought to everyone's attention. Don't shoot at the wrong basket and stand in the paint
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:03 pm to whoisnickdoobs
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They would have to face Blackman at some point anyway. Pretty pathetic neither team would just face them early on in their bracket just so they would have the chance to say we lost to Blackman in the Championship
That makes no sense. There's no point to seeding if that were true. You never want to play the best team first. Blackman doesn't have a free ride to the championship. They could be upset by another team.
I don't think I'd have the guts to intentionally throw a game as a coach...especially for a high school. But I don't have a big issue with it. Can you fault the coaches for doing what's best for their team? It's the league that is at fault for allowing these circumstances to occur.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:04 pm to SUB
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Can you fault the coaches for doing what's best for their team? It's the league that is at fault for allowing these circumstances to occur.
Exactly.
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Why in the frick would the loser of a consolation game get to advance???
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:04 pm to SUB
Not sure if it has been pointed out, but it was in the thread on the MSB, but the leading scorer of this game was Treasure Hunt for Smyrna. She had 17 points.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:07 pm to OnTheBrink
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he leading scorer of this game was Treasure Hunt for Smyrna
Somebody marked the basket with an X?
Is this her mom?
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:08 pm to oleyeller
Michael Carter-Williams: Don't Talk to Me About Tanking
Here's a pretty good article about tanking and professional sports. I agree with what he says.
Here's a pretty good article about tanking and professional sports. I agree with what he says.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:16 pm to SUB
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That makes no sense. There's no point to seeding if that were true. You never want to play the best team first. Blackman doesn't have a free ride to the championship. They could be upset by another team.
I don't think I'd have the guts to intentionally throw a game as a coach...especially for a high school. But I don't have a big issue with it. Can you fault the coaches for doing what's best for their team? It's the league that is at fault for allowing these circumstances to occur.
This. I don't understand why everyone views this as some sort of negative lesson for the players.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:22 pm to OnTheBrink
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the leading scorer of this game was Treasure Hunt for Smyrna. She had 17 points.
So there was one player with some integrity. I was thinking that if I had a daughter on the team, I would have pulled her aside and told her that defeatist attitude had no room in her head.
That shitty character was probably the reason they were in a consolation game in the first place.
At worst, the coaches should have agreed to play like normal with their backups. Give them some real game experience and rest your starters, if you want a legit reason.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:28 pm to GRTiger
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I would have pulled her aside and told her that defeatist attitude had no room in her head.
That shitty character was probably the reason they were in a consolation game in the first place.
Oh please. This is the real world. The crushing favorite wins. Defeatist? How about Realist?
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:33 pm to Big Scrub TX
I don't know about you, but I've never intentionally failed in the real world I live in.
Is it really worth looking like a loser to be able to say you came in 2nd instead of 7th? Pure ignorance and terrible character. Knowing your history, your opinion in this thread is the least surprising one.
Is it really worth looking like a loser to be able to say you came in 2nd instead of 7th? Pure ignorance and terrible character. Knowing your history, your opinion in this thread is the least surprising one.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:36 pm to SUB
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That makes no sense. There's no point to seeding if that were true. You never want to play the best team first. Blackman doesn't have a free ride to the championship. They could be upset by another team.
Sure they can be upset by another team but I'd rather keep my dignity and try to beat the powerhouse early than intentionally lose.
I'm not sure how their bracketology works but it does sound like the league messed something up. Losing should never work to your advantage.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:37 pm to GRTiger
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Is it really worth looking like a loser to be able to say you came in 2nd instead of 7th?
This.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:44 pm to GRTiger
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I don't know about you, but I've never intentionally failed in the real world I live in.
So what about the free throw example? Do you ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE YOUR FREE THROWS, or do you situationally adjust when there is 1 second on the clock and you are down by 2, so you know that making it will only cause you to lose the game with certainty? Ever hear of losing a battle but winning a war?
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Is it really worth looking like a loser to be able to say you came in 2nd instead of 7th?
Perhaps, but there are other scenarios. (And really, who cares what you LOOK like? Is that the lesson you want for your kids...that it's a style contest?). Someone else mentioned the scenario whereby a different team manages to pull the upset on Blackman, thus leaving a potentially substantially weaker opponent in the final.
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Pure ignorance and terrible character
Ignorance of what? Terrible character as defined by taking lemons and attempting to make lemonade?
The world sure seems very black and white to you. Good to know you have it figured out...and on the side that is DEFINITELY RIGHT...right?
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:47 pm to whoisnickdoobs
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Losing should never work to your advantage.
Says the NBA and NFL.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:51 pm to anc
Right decision and I'd suspend the coaches if the rules allowed.
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