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re: Two students suspended over a gun photo taken during a family visit to a shooting range
Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:46 am to Ole War Skule
Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:46 am to Ole War Skule
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Possession? ?of? ?Weapons In accordance with the Safe Schools Initiative, the Zero Tolerance For Guns Act, P.L. 1995 and 55 its companion C.128 and the Lacey Township School Board’s Zero Tolerance Policy, any student who is reported to be in possession of a weapon of any type for any reason or purpose whether on or off school grounds during the academic year shall be disciplined as follows: A. Long term suspension. B. Evaluation by the high school Child Study Team. C. Recommendation by the administration to the Board of Education for suspension for at least 1 year.
What if someone posted a pic of a student eating a steak at Outback? Is a steak knife not a weapon?
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:52 am to shinerfan
Hell, holding a baseball bat, football helmet, etc...all can be used as weapons. Lot of suspensions could happen.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:54 am to DemonKA3268
or the saws, hammers , chisels etc... in shop class?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:55 am to MorbidTheClown
pencils, pens, scissors in the classroom?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:58 am to Salmon
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also, reading the FB group, it is comforting to know that all neighborhood FB groups are basically the exact same thing
people posting lost dogs, bitching about speeding, bitching about yards, bitching about some business, or asking for recommendations for haircuts or handyman
This is the most accurate thing I've read all day
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:00 pm to cwarr14
Yep, the stuff that "really" matters is what they complain about. 
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:05 pm to Ole War Skule
I assumed the policy was broadly written to be able to suspend a student for an off campus incident or arrest.
Schools have had problems in the past preventing students from attending class while they were out on bond for serious crimes. They wanted the ability to suspend a troublemaker or potentially dangerous student.
I thought the suspension might be an example of bureaucratic lunacy by an overzealous administrator misapplying the policy.
I was wrong. While the policy is written in a broad and all encompassing manner to cover a lot of scenarios, it clearly states
The policy wasn’t misinterpreted by a single person pushing an agenda. Guns are the scariest things in the world to these people. Any student crazy enough to hold a gun is a danger. Hunting, a firearm safety class, or even holding an antique rifle are not excuses.
Schools have had problems in the past preventing students from attending class while they were out on bond for serious crimes. They wanted the ability to suspend a troublemaker or potentially dangerous student.
I thought the suspension might be an example of bureaucratic lunacy by an overzealous administrator misapplying the policy.
I was wrong. While the policy is written in a broad and all encompassing manner to cover a lot of scenarios, it clearly states
quote:
possession of a weapon of any type for any reason or purpose whether on or off school grounds
The policy wasn’t misinterpreted by a single person pushing an agenda. Guns are the scariest things in the world to these people. Any student crazy enough to hold a gun is a danger. Hunting, a firearm safety class, or even holding an antique rifle are not excuses.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:13 pm to DemonKA3268
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:14 pm to Ghost of Colby
quote:those aren't what anyone is trying to legislate against
Hunting, a firearm safety class, or even holding an antique rifle are not excuses.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:14 pm to Ghost of Colby
Regardless of whether it was appropriate or not, it was stupid to do because the climate over kids with guns is pretty hot. Social media is a great way to figure out how dumb someone is.
This is one of the most controversial issues today, and someone is dumb enough to post pics of guns and ammo. No...not posing with a deer, just the guns and ammo? Hell, post a picture of your kid actually shooting at the target.
Furthermore, the fascination with people constantly letting the social media world in on their daily activities is the cause of this.
You wanna go to the gun range? Great. Why do you have to post pictures of your weapons?
This is one of the most controversial issues today, and someone is dumb enough to post pics of guns and ammo. No...not posing with a deer, just the guns and ammo? Hell, post a picture of your kid actually shooting at the target.
Furthermore, the fascination with people constantly letting the social media world in on their daily activities is the cause of this.
You wanna go to the gun range? Great. Why do you have to post pictures of your weapons?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:16 pm to TexasTiger08
What does it matter? It's none of their business. Whether someone wants to post stuff is on them.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:19 pm to TexasTiger08
What? That's absurd. What in the world is wrong about posting that picture?
I'm not buying that "it's the climate of today" crap. Thinking like that is how we get a bunch of nerds needing safe spaces.
I'm not buying that "it's the climate of today" crap. Thinking like that is how we get a bunch of nerds needing safe spaces.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:21 pm to TH03
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What in the world is wrong about posting that picture?
It violated someone's social media safe space.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:22 pm to LSUBoo
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:25 pm to TH03
There’s nothing wrong with the picture.
But to act surprised that this happened is pretty stupid. Today’s climate is exactly why this happened. You don’t have to ‘buy’ it. It literally happened. Those Jersey people are probably nerds who need the safe spaces. But this topic is so sensitive, you are pretty dumb with your faux shock over this stuff.
But to act surprised that this happened is pretty stupid. Today’s climate is exactly why this happened. You don’t have to ‘buy’ it. It literally happened. Those Jersey people are probably nerds who need the safe spaces. But this topic is so sensitive, you are pretty dumb with your faux shock over this stuff.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:27 pm to TexasTiger08
The district has since changed their policy:
Hopefully the two students are reinstated and given time to make up their coursework. Legal action also seems reasonable.
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"Students are forbidden to carry any type of weapon or simulated weapon to school," the revamped policy states. "Strict disciplinary action and legal actions will result if this occurs. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any imitation firearm in or upon any part of the building... without the written authorization of the governing officer of the institution, or while on any school bus is a disorderly person."
Hopefully the two students are reinstated and given time to make up their coursework. Legal action also seems reasonable.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:47 pm to slackster
There's Pictures of different students from different groups with law enforcement officers hanging in the school Halls of my daughter School.
Guess what's on the side of every one of those LEO's hips??
Guess what's on the side of every one of those LEO's hips??
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:43 pm to heypaul
Lube?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 8:33 pm to Mike da Tigah
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I went to school in America, and we had gun racks with guns prominently displayed and nobody even gave it a second thought, oh, and no school shootings either.
Can you imagine how easily the Russians and Cubans could have taken over our country had they waited until now to invade instead of 1984 when a group of high school kids ran them off with deer rifles and stolen AKs/RPGs?
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