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re: Two black guys show up to civil war reenactment as slaves trying to be a part of it lol
Posted on 10/22/22 at 1:45 pm to TrueTiger
Posted on 10/22/22 at 1:45 pm to TrueTiger
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It was rare but there were instances of blacks fighting on the Confederate side
Check out the Bear Grease podcast on Holt Collier.
Slave from Mississippi, fought for the confederacy, guided Teddy Roosevelt on several bear hunts. Amazing life
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 1:47 pm to TrueTiger
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It's not impossible but it's unusual for a culture to make something legal that it also finds immoral.
This was the norm in colonial interactions though, as in the colonizing power often violated their own principles. You should read some of the stuff Bartholme de las Casas for several vivid accounts.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 1:47 pm to AbitaFan08
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Skip the squats today. This thread can’t afford to lose all of your intelligent insights. Don’t be selfish.
Uh oh, little dude is mad about something I posted. Don't worry baby, I can do both at the same time.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 1:48 pm to SOSFAN
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Blacks were first placed into slavery by other black tribes then sold. Slave masters in America were represented by Blacks, Whites and Native Americans. With multiple races owning slaves, including blacks owning blacks, this points more to an economical necessity than it pointing to racism. Are you implying that the black slave owners were racist against their own race?
Thank you! If I had this remarkable perspective on history, I would've started selling Uyghurs into slavery years ago. It would've been pure business, not racism.
This post was edited on 10/22/22 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 10/22/22 at 1:54 pm to crazy4lsu
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This was the norm in colonial interactions though, as in the colonizing power often violated their own principles.
I can see that, because the mothership could view that 'other world' as 'not really us'.
I feel like we agree that slavery is immoral. That's my position.
But we can't quite agree to how much of our morality we should apply to the alien world of the past.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 1:56 pm to TrueTiger
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But we can't quite agree to how much of our morality we should apply to the alien world of the past.
If we followed the morality of de las Casas, though, we would have always seen it as immoral. He was legitimately a good man. What I'm saying is that people did say that slavery was immoral at the time. It became a more mainstream position in Europe well before the US though.
This post was edited on 10/22/22 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 10/22/22 at 2:00 pm to crazy4lsu
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Uh oh, little dude is mad about something I posted. Don't worry baby, I can do both at the same time.
Are you in the habit of calling other guys “baby?”
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 2:02 pm to crazy4lsu
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What I'm saying is that people did say that slavery was immoral at the time.
I never disagreed.
It may have been a minority position at the time but I'm 100% certain it existed.
And by the way, there are no guarantees that it could'nt become the minority position again 200 years from now.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 2:04 pm to crazy4lsu
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But its one we can verify, or in deductive reasoning terms, test the soundness of, you moron. It isn't a logical conclusion either, as the term 'residents' is doing a lot of work for you. When the soundness of a premise is questioned, what do we do?
Laugh at the person hanging their sole argument on the definition of a common word?
A resident is commonly understood to be someone who lives somewhere. If you want to refine that down to "those who were born and/or raised in a specific area and continue to live there" then we can do that, but it changes neither the premise nor the conclusion.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 2:06 pm to MikeyFL
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Thank you! If I had this remarkable perspective on history, I would've started selling Uyghurs into slavery years ago. It would've been pure business, not racism.
So according to you the black tribes that originally put other black tribes into slavery and sold them did so because they were racist...sure
Posted on 10/22/22 at 2:08 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Have y’all figured out what started the civil war? Entire world is banking on this thread!!
Posted on 10/22/22 at 2:08 pm to Bard
Elaborate on the context of whether 'slaves' were considered residents, you moron. Also you conveniently avoided the question of soundness, which is absolutely part of the deductive process.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 2:10 pm to AbitaFan08
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Are you in the habit of calling other guys “baby?”
Thought you were a bitch for real. I should have used the proper nomenclature, babydick.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 2:10 pm to crazy4lsu
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de las Casas
A believer in objective external morality,
I must admit, he sounds like my kind of guy.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 2:21 pm to Byrdybyrd05
What you from? My daddy’s balls, lol!
Posted on 10/22/22 at 2:35 pm to Darth_Vader
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Since this goes against the modern leftist narrative concerning blacks and the Confederacy, it’s almost impossible to find mention of them on the internet in anything resembling factual terms.
So the leftists are controlling the internet now??
Good thing all of us TD/SECr posters have our computers wired together, or the evil leftists might come after this right wing hotbed of a message board we're communicating on right now!!
Posted on 10/22/22 at 2:40 pm to imjustafatkid
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We're supposed to concede that slavery was socially accepted in the past throughout most of human history, and was not inherently "racist."
Right, right, when mostly only one race is enslaved and sold like cattle in one country, and 99.999% of the slave owners are the same race, that totally isn't "inherently racist" at all!
What would ever give anybody that crazy idea?
must be those crazy commies trying to turn us all into evil leftists again 
Posted on 10/22/22 at 2:50 pm to jbgleason
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The victors write the history books. It's always been that way.
Ironic if you know anything about the United Daughters of the Confederacy and their activities in the early 20th century
They quite literally wrote the history books used in southern schools in order to push the Lost Cause myth that so many posters in this thread are still parroting
Posted on 10/22/22 at 3:46 pm to crazy4lsu
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Elaborate on the context of whether 'slaves' were considered residents,
That's irrelevant, we're talking about (or, at least, I'm talking about) free blacks serving as combat troops.
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Also you conveniently avoided the question of soundness, which is absolutely part of the deductive process.
You meant that as a legitimate question? I thought you were just rambling. I'm not going build you a truth table just to prove a conclusion where the premises are all already known to be true.
Posted on 10/22/22 at 4:47 pm to MikeyFL
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Why not enslave 80% of the white population then? Was it just a 4 million person coincidence?
Already addressed. The supply of slaves was from Africa.
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