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re: TV Shows That Predicted What Would Happen To Men?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:46 am to A Smoke Break
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:46 am to A Smoke Break
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The son is the half man due to age and height you moog. Lmao.
It's a metaphor, Drax.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:05 pm to 75247
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It was Tim Allen’s role as Tim “the Tool Man” Taylor of the 1990s series “Home Improvement” that inspired my initial interest in sitcom dads. Tim was goofy and childish, whereas Jill, his wife, was always ready – with a disapproving scowl, a snappy remark and seemingly endless stores of patience – to bring him back in line.
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“It used to be that father knew best, and then we started to wonder if he knew anything at all.”
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When sitcoms stereotype fathers, they seem to suggest that men are somehow inherently ill-suited for parenting. That sells actual fathers short and, in heterosexual, two-parent contexts, it reinforces the idea that mothers should take on the lion’s share of parenting responsibilities.
Standard 50's TV Father
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The Standard '50s Father was born in a small town in the US Mid-West (or, as in the case of the quote above, the English Home Counties). His parents were farmers of some sort, or perhaps his father was a druggist. A veteran, he put himself through college (possibly through the G.I. Bill) and is now a white-collar professional... unless he is the proprietor of some small local business (pharmacy, shoe store, grocery, etc.).
The Standard '50s Father is solid, dependable, and responsible. He's Happily Married to his wife, whom he met when they were both teenagers. And if the love he gives his children is slightly distant, it is no less heartfelt for being so. He's an upstanding citizen who rarely swears or drinks to excess, if he smokes he smokes a pipe, and attends a regular "bowling night" with his friends ("darts" if British). If he plays cards it will be bridge, probably in partnership with his wife, not poker in a dingy room full of cigar smoke. He wears a shirt and tie with dress pants and a cardigan during the day (even while he cuts the lawn on Saturday morning) and sleeps in sensible cotton pajamas. He usually wears glasses. He's buttoned-down, calm, wise, and thoughtful. None but a few things can rattle him: 1.) His daughter getting a boyfriend, 2.) His wife revealing that she's going to have a baby (and her later going into labor), 3.) His wife deciding that she wants a job (assuming that it's her idea and not his), or 4.) The threat of losing his job (combining 3 and 4 could send him into open hysterics). If the Red Scare is in effect, he'll go berserk at the thought of someone close to him being a communist.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:07 pm to 91TIGER
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Will & Grace
No black love interest.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:09 pm to SuperSaint
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Ohhh the poor middle aged white man…
I went back and reread the OP and not once did they inject race into their comment. Why are you?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:09 pm to jimbeam
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You may get downvotes or called a simp about this, but it’s true.
Wasn’t two broke girls a sitcom about two chicks that are broke and keep fricking up? One being really slutty and everyone laughed at them?
I only watched it a few times but that’s what I gathered was the premise.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:11 pm to junkfunky
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It's a metaphor, Drax.
If you really think Chuck Lorre is clever enough to create a metaphor on the weakness of the male condition and interweave it into his title, you're insane.
He's referring to the child. Half pint. Half men.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:22 pm to 75247
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Most people look at the half part of Two and a Half men and assume it's in reference to the child character. I'm not sure it wasn't actually meant to reference the Alan Harper character as he truly is half a man.
It could also be said that Charlie Sheen’s character is also half a man. They are both flawed individuals that are weak in different ways.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:34 pm to 75247
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I bring this up because I am currently out of town and staying in a hotel and that's pretty much the only time I ever just flip channels.
Bring a fire stick/Roku with you next time and this won’t happen to you.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:47 pm to 75247
Matthew McConaughey character in A Time to Kill
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:48 pm to junkfunky
quote:He was a gay man pretending to be a straight man pretending to be a gay man. Sounds like another role in a movie....
Always seemed like a gay guy pretending to be a straight guy instead of the other way around.

Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:48 pm to junkfunky
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It's a metaphor, Drax.
Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too fast. I’d catch it.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 2:18 pm to SuperSaint
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Ohhh the poor middle aged white man…
We live such a horrible existance, we should all sky scream in unison so our voices are heard… I’m literally shaking right now from all the hate directed at us
Do you have any idea how many calories are burned by auto-fellatio? It's probably a lot.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 3:25 pm to junkfunky
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Three's company is the first show I remember thinking "that guy is kinda weird"

Posted on 6/16/21 at 3:40 pm to 91TIGER
It's depressing to look back at 90s TV actors. They always look so squared away, like people from a J.C. Penney ad: no weird tattoos or piercings, no blue hair, etcetera.
Will & Grace was about people who were, by the standards of the day, sexual deviants... 25 years later, your typical married suburban accountant looks like a frickin' Yakuza henchman in comparison.
Will & Grace was about people who were, by the standards of the day, sexual deviants... 25 years later, your typical married suburban accountant looks like a frickin' Yakuza henchman in comparison.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 3:45 pm to 75247
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He's what women say (sometimes actually think) they want when the reality is even though they hate Charlie Harper (Charlie Sheen of course) that's who they truly want. Someone who is truly a man.
Remarkable how unselfconscious the OP is. He thinks women are a homogeneous bunch who all want the same things.
Good post other than that.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:16 pm to 75247
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It's truly amazing how women scream if a woman character isn't treated as some goddess who can do no wrong but yet the men are always bumbling idiots who would fall apart without a woman
Siskel & Ebert used to hammer Hollywood for this. They loathed a lot of "family" film and TV portrayals of dads who were negligent deadbeats or well-meaning retards.
This was in the early 90s too, and both of them were pretty liberal. If they were around today, I'd be curious to know if they'd still speak out against this, or if they'd even be allowed to.
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