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Turing Pharma still selling AIDS med @750$/pill, but has new competition@1$/pill

Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:04 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:04 pm
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The Associated Press is reporting that a maker of compounded drugs will begin selling Daraprim, whose price was famously jacked up to $750 per pill by one of history’s greatest assholes, for the whopping price of $0.99 per pill.

I believe the word you’re looking for is LOL. San Diego-based Imprimis Pharmaceuticals Inc., which mixes approved drug ingredients to fill individual patient prescriptions, said Thursday it will supply capsules containing Daraprim’s active ingredients, pyrimethamine and leucovorin, for $99 for a 100-capsule bottle, via its site:www.imprimiscares.com. A 100-capsule bottle of Daraprim from Shkreli’s Turing Pharmaceuticals will only run you $75,000, no big deal.

Imprimis CEO Mark Baum has spotted a niche for his company, undercutting pharmaceutical companies who’ve jacked prices on other generic drugs through the roof. “We are looking at all of these cases where the sole-source generic companies are jacking the price way up,” Baum said in an interview. “There’ll be many more of these” compounded drugs coming in the near future. Hilariously, Shkreli paid $55 million in August for the rights to Daraprim before pulling his price-gouging stunt. And now?

Imprimis, which primarily makes compounded drugs to treat cataracts and urological conditions, will work with health insurers and prescription benefit managers in each state to make its new capsules and other compounded generic medicines widely available, Baum said. “We’re geared up. We’re ready to go as soon as the orders come in,” he said. Today and today only it will be OK to stand up and applaud a goddamn pharmaceutical company.


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Searched, SIAP
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139231 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:05 pm to
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I believe the word you’re looking for is LOL

Well, that's not really a word, so, no.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52640 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:07 pm to
I'm all for capitalism but this guy needs to have his nuts put in a vice.
Posted by TypoKnig
Member since Aug 2011
8928 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:08 pm to
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Well, that's not really a word, so, no.


It was added to the Oxford dictionary as a word a few years ago.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11987 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:08 pm to
IMMY

quote:

Earnings Per Share (EPS) $ -1.29


Good business model
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139231 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:08 pm to
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I'm all for capitalism but this guy needs to have his nuts put in a vice.

Looks like the market adjusted his retarded business plan, so I would say capitalism worked
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139231 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:09 pm to
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It was added to the Oxford dictionary as a word a few years ago.

Seriously?
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53568 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:10 pm to
As I understood it, Turning used an FDA loophole to ensure there wasn't another generic available. So probably a lawsuit coming.

Additionally, this proves we don't need Hillary or Bernie to save us from ourselves, the free market seems to have taken care of the issue. What a surprise.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5376 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:10 pm to
For those that believe in it, here is an instance of the free market taking care of something.

Now, we will see how un free the health care market is when insurance companies refuse to cover the new pill or the fda swoops in because it is a compounded drug.
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53568 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:12 pm to
Really want to short that up 12% on this feel good bullshite.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:12 pm to
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Good business model


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Investors applauded the move, driving Imprimis shares (IMMY) up 7% to $6.41 in early trading Friday.


Somebody liked the move

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Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5910 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:14 pm to
The anti-Shkreli circlejerk is kinda annoying. He raised the price of a drug because drug companies already operate on a loss. This was to fund more research for a better drug. This also provides incentive for a cheaper drug. What he did wasn't necessarily "wrong".
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53568 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:16 pm to
Hey, get of here with your logical shite. We like to blindly villify people we don't agree with here.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32430 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:17 pm to
Over the years, I've heard several people say that they believe there is already a cure for things like cancer and aids, but that the money is in the treatment and not the cure so these drugs never see the light of day. I think that's total horseshite,because I don't think people/companies are that evil, plus a hell of a lot of money could be made off the cure too. People believe some outrageous shite.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80837 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:18 pm to
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He raised the price of a drug because drug companies already operate on a loss.


bullshite -- He is gouging. Period.

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This was to fund more research for a better drug.


bullshite

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This also provides incentive for a cheaper drug.


The drug was already $1/pill

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What he did wasn't necessarily "wrong"


bullshite
This post was edited on 10/23/15 at 12:19 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:19 pm to
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What he did wasn't necessarily wrong.


Wrong has so many bad connotations...

I would have used the word justified. He does have a responsibility to his investors though, who might be out 55 million dollars if this encourages anyone else to get in the Daraprim game.

Besides the whole industry hates him for basically encouraging audits of how justified drug prices are at the moment. It's become a presidential election topic exactly because of him, driving down industry wide stocks.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11987 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:26 pm to
I was kind of kidding but it seems like not making a profit is standard for most small cap biotechs. This company will most likely get bought out and the CEO will make bank

And actually thinking about the idea of competing on price seems like a good idea in theory. R&D expenses would be low because they would be producing drugs that other companies had to develop
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:32 pm to
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And actually thinking about the idea of competing on price seems like a good idea in theory. R&D expenses would be low because they would be producing drugs that other companies had to develop


Exactly, I read that this is a generic drug that has been around for like 60 years. I mean there should be zero R&D costs.

And the company prob will get bought out. How funny would it be for Turing to try and buy them out just for this- essentially double down on their investment. If nothing else this will encourage other companies to do the same with other drugs that are way overpriced.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11987 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:33 pm to
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It's become a presidential election topic exactly because of him, driving down industry wide stocks.


If only people could realize that this is the perfect example why regulating drug prices is unnecessary. Another example is the pricing war between viekira pak and harvoni. The competition has already put pressure on GILD to lower prices. But maybe that's just me
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5910 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:39 pm to
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This was to fund more research for a better drug.


bullshite


How? The drug was toxic and had been around for a while. More profits is more money towards research.

Kinda nuts how people don't understand the concept of making money. He bought the company and had every right to raise prices. Simple as that. These drug companies simply cannot make money at how much it costs to make a drug. People who hate Skhreli are the same people who go out and buy Iphones but don't care that they are made in shitty factories in bad conditions at high profit margins. No one complains about Tim Cook.
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