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re: TS Elsa - Heading off to the NE, Then Shut the Tropics Down for a Couple of Weeks

Posted on 7/1/21 at 7:13 am to
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted by whiskey over ice
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 7:25 am to
If that song gets stuck in my head so help me God
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 7:26 am to
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Aren’t y’all farmers?

Oh no you don't, you sumbitch.

Bingo has to be organic. You can't bait it into happening.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 7:26 am to
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 7:27 am to
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That's a whole lot more Florida than previous updates.


frick
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 7:32 am to
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If that song gets stuck in my head so help me God

Posted by rds dc
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 7:40 am to
Some pretty big short term differences in the models this morning are generating some significantly different solutions. The Euro keeps this weak and quickly sweeps it up into a trough that is rounding the Canadian ridge. The GFS is stronger and slower.

The ensembles highlight this nicely:

00z Euro EPS through D5



00z GEFS through D5



Through 48hrs the Euro has a pretty disorganized system with a weak H5 signature, while the GFS has a deeper more organized system.

00z Euro



00z GFS



And by Sunday evening the Euro is sweeping this away while the GFS has it anchored in the Caribbean.





The Euro performed poorly in the tropics last season and the NHC track currently leans heavy towards the GFS.
Posted by PaulBurbank007
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 7:45 am to
Hopefully she’s as wet as Elsa jean
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:13 am to
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:18 am to
Not sure why you’d think that?
This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 9:21 am
Posted by Oates Mustache
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:21 am to
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rds dc


My concern right now for the Gulf Coast is that Elsa has been consistently south of the model initialization. Meaning more and western component in her path potentially as she creeps towards the Gulf. It's such a low confidence forecast right now.
Posted by rds dc
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:22 am to
A bit of a SW shift in the 12z early cycle guidance with the NHC track down the middle. The next 24 - 36 hrs will play a big role in the future track with a stronger system potentially resulting in additional SW shifts and a weaker system producing the opposite.

Posted by rt3
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:25 am to
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Meteorologist Nick Mikulas
Tropical Storm Elsa has formed in the Atlantic Ocean. Yes, I know. You hear Elsa, and you automatically think of Albert Einstein’s second wife, and first cousin Elsa Einstein. I know that’s an obvious observation, but please, let it go.

Ok I got that out of my system. Elsa could be a Florida threat, or could possibly hook just east of Florida. For our purposes, it’ll be a big stack of nothing, so we can go back to our regularly scheduled summer heat. But today is the first day of July. That means we are just a month away from August, which puts September in pretty clear view. After that we might even see a cold front or two in October, and by November, it’ll be pretty comfortable. Then comes the December cold, which never bothered me anyway.

Nick Mik got jokes
Posted by Oates Mustache
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:29 am to
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After that we might even see a cold front or two in October, and by November, it’ll be pretty comfortable.


I can't wait. Bring on October.
Posted by A Smoke Break
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:30 am to
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I’ll go ahead and say this before the weather channel, but this is reminding me of Katrina


Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:54 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:54 am to
that thing is definitely not hitting in that cone of where it says its hitting.
Posted by rds dc
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:55 am to
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My concern right now for the Gulf Coast is that Elsa has been consistently south of the model initialization. Meaning more and western component in her path potentially as she creeps towards the Gulf. It's such a low confidence forecast right now.


I'm not sure that the "southward" shifts at this point play a big role in the future track. The system is currently dealing with northerly shear and this is resulting in some downshear convection which can result in a southward trend in consolidation of the LLC. However, strength and organization of the system over the next 48hrs will play a bigger role in track. A deeper system will be more influenced by the upper level flow than a shallow weak system.
This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 10:00 am
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 10:07 am to
Without looking at the upper levels, I guess we will have UL ridge West-Upper trough east basically keeping the Gulf closed during next 4-8 days ?
Posted by Oates Mustache
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 10:10 am to
Have you looked at the GFS ensembles? That's a pretty significant shift west, with a much bigger cluster over the Louisiana coast now.
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