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re: True Story: From Mother's Hospital at UAB, The Dark Side of Medicine

Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:24 pm to
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37783 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:24 pm to
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Healthcare should never be about profit margins because people with the best healthcare training in the world are now given powers to manipulate your treatment based on how much money they can make off of you.


Feel feee to use whatever back page, nickel add healthcare provider you feel is poor enough to convince you they’re not manipulating you. The reason we have incredible healthcare is because of the free market, comrade. If you want healthcare not based on margins go to a free clinic. Let me know how it works out for you. While I understand the drawbacks of our healthcare system, I’ll accept it as long as I know I can hire the best doctors I can afford. I don’t want some guy cutting on me who isn’t interested in a reward for his exceptionalism. You want to see how people perform when there’s no incentive, go to the DMV.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6670 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:31 pm to
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Is Siegel her Ortho?



Indeed.

No complaints with him.
I emailed him late one evening out of desperation bc his office wasn’t getting back to us in a timely manner.

He responded almost immediately, and the next morning, his office called. Twice.

You can tell he cares simply by reading his Google reviews, and his responses.

He’s supposed to be one of the best in the nation.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29562 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:36 pm to
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Healthcare should never be about profit margins

Agreed

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people with the best healthcare training in the world are now given powers to manipulate your treatment based on how much money they can make off of you

The people with the training (you know, who actually do the medicine part) only account for about 8% of your bill. Hospitals, insurers, and the corporations who control them are the people at whom you should direct your ire.

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Pharmaceutical companies should not be allowed to advertise, manipulate or otherwise have any say so in a person living a healthy life.

They shouldn’t be able to advertise period.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29562 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:42 pm to
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There are good docs and bad docs. Just like every other profession there are doctors who will take time to do what is right and those that want to do the minimum and go home. There are young idealistic ones who are hampered by lack of experience and there are seasoned doctors who may have become jaded and cynical with time having seen the nearly perpetual disappointment of human nature, their recommendations about diet and exercise going ignored, and the predatory encroachment of profit-driven administrations. Sounds like you both went into the encounter with pre-conceived and inflexible notions of what is best. The truth is that a lot of modern medicine is an attempt to fix a lifetime’s worth of bad personal decisions by patients. What do you think contributes to hypertension, type 2 diabetes, AFib, coronary disease, obesity, sleep apnea? Good doctors have been telling people to eat right and get exercise for decades. We live in a leisured & affluent society where people are indifferent to the long-term consequences of an unhealthy lifestyle. Their first instinct is to blame someone else (including doctors and big pharma) for their own shortcomings before recognizing their own contribution to the situation. People want an immediate solution with instant gratification - not a prescription for hard work (diet and exercise). Yes, we are overdue for a fundamental transformation in the philosophy of healthcare in this country. One that involves responsibilities to both providers and patients but also accountability and more guardrails to big pharma.

Excellent post. Honestly sums up my thoughts better than I could articulate them myself.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29562 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:46 pm to
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We, as a society, need to start taking responsibility for our own actions.

Nah bro I would rather treat my body like shite and blame the people who try to fix it.
Posted by CodeName1
Member since Mar 2021
226 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:46 pm to
Siegel is absolutely legit.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29562 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:59 pm to
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So what bad decisions are behind hypertension and AFib due to a congenital heart defect? Being born?

Lmao. This reads like a Gaucho post.

Drinking, smoking, being obese, having a shitty diet, being inactive/not exercising… then probably genetics.

And afib is more commonly caused by old age or heart disease, again see above.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29562 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:08 pm to
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UAB must be one of those "teaching" hospitals where a half dozen junior doctors come around and ask the patient the same exact questions over and over? It’s as if the new junior doctors have a check list that has to be turned in each day. I understand they have to learn, but they can learn somewhere other than where my loved ones are.

Well go somewhere else then? It’s a teaching hospital. Doctors have to learn somewhere, and frankly some of the best hospitals in the US are teaching hospitals. They see some of the most complex cases and sickest patients.


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I'm an old dude and have never spent a night in a hospital as a patient and will resist all advice about admitting me if I am in a cognitive state..

This is why women live longer than us.
Posted by Camijoe
Member since May 2024
456 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:48 pm to
Psychiatrist prescribe drugs dude. That's basically what they do. Not gonna wast time in that talk therapy bs. Just toss the scrips in the toilet and move on.
Posted by JackaReaux
BR
Member since Feb 2017
958 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:09 pm to
UAB is among the best. I hope your mother recovers
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
4475 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:22 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 10:07 am
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4664 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 3:39 am to
“ICU delirium”
Very common.Big contributing factor s simply lack of sleep.ICU is a busy place,hustle and bustle,monitors going off,frequent vital sign checks.Some of it is,unavoidable but some of it is.
Then another factor is night nurses that are simply too loud,talking and laughing,keep the light s on too bright.
We used to have a nurse that would have the patients tv on MTV all night.
Happened quite a few times to my pts.,they would be perfectly lucid when I ended my shift,come back the next morning,frickin MTV would be on and the poor pt would be looney tunes.I’d raise hell with him,complained to the boss but nothing would be done.Full time night nurses are hard to come by.
The guy got sick and died,I didn’t shed any tears.
When I had to work nights I would get really pissed off at all the noise.Some would,be telling jokes ,laughing ,etc near my room,I’d tell them quickly to tone it down or go elsewhere.I wasn’t popular with many of the night nurses.
We had one intensivist that was a real stickler for quiet when he worked nights,he kept the lights down,didn’t tolerate unnecessary noise.He wasn’t popular either.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
46000 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 5:06 am to
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until my wife suggested we request a visit with a psychiatric doctor,


This is why women should not be allowed to vote and or run things.

By the way, your mom‘s gonna be on red flag list from here on out.

In all seriousness, though, pulling for you guys, dealing with doctors and hospitals for days and weeks on end is exhausting. Especially if you get all caught up in some sort of part of the system.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19115 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 6:02 am to
Ok doc
Posted by Cell of Awareness
Member since Jan 2024
1273 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 8:03 am to
For every dollar the drug industry puts into research and development, it spends two on marketing to doctors and patients. Between 1995 and 2005, the number of drug reps in the US jumped from 38,000 to 100,000. That’s about one rep for every six doctors, but really, it’s more like one rep for every 2.5 doctors they focus on.

Big Pharma needs to be SLAUGHTERED.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6670 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:20 am to
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Cell of Awareness


Amen.

As an LSU student (03-08), I was published in the LSU medical journal for this article, which echoes your sentiments:

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Today, we are facing a major problem in this country: Our addiction not to oil or nonrenewable resources - though it is another travesty how we do not have the foresight to see where we are headed if we continue our cycle - but our overwhelming intake of pharmaceutical drugs. Just recently, it was discovered that after 180 million people and $14 BILLION later, Nexium and Prilosec have been discovered to stop the absorption of calcium and speed up osteoporosis. This is just the latest "miracle drug" found to have adverse side effects.


This whole process started in the 1990s when DTC (direct to consumer) advertising began. Just 10 years earlier, Big Pharma voted against it but soon realized that profits would skyrocket if it could just sell a lifestyle to Americans, who are material consumerists and want the quick fix. There are currently 80,000-90,000 medical representatives in America. That is one for every five doctors! They spend between $8,000 and $15,000 per doctor. In 2002, 28 percent of all hospital admissions for the elderly were due to medication problems - at a cost of $20 billion! We, as Americans, should understand that there is no "quick fix" for the human body.

A balanced diet with moderate exercise will help the vast majority of us. We also need to understand the millions of dollars being placed into the pockets of Washington in order to continue the barrage of "medication" for our "health." It is truly a shame.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
73047 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:38 am to
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That doc was probably on their doll.
On their “doll” and other dole are two completely different things.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4061 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:43 am to
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True Story: From Mother's Hospital


I thought this was going to be a TulaneLSU post.
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
1514 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:05 am to
If you didn’t want psych then you shouldn’t have asked for psych
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7103 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:14 am to
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when looking through the available doctors in that specialty there were quite a few docs that specialized in trans stuff.


can you post a link to this for my perusing please? i'm not doubting what you are saying, i just want to see how it's worded.
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