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re: True or false: Violent, public, televised executions for convicted murderers
Posted on 9/26/23 at 4:53 pm to Old Sarge
Posted on 9/26/23 at 4:53 pm to Old Sarge
Criminals commit crimes because they think they are too smart to get caught. You can make every punishment the death penalty but if they keep seeing ineptitude by law enforcement, they will continue to commit crimes because they think they are smart enough to get away with it.
You want to stop crime? Start going after enter every minor offense and initiate hard labor for 6 months even for petty crimes. When they stop seeing people getting away with it, they will stop.
You want to stop crime? Start going after enter every minor offense and initiate hard labor for 6 months even for petty crimes. When they stop seeing people getting away with it, they will stop.
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 4:56 pm to Obtuse1
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OP included the word violent which brings in the 8A discussion.
Are hangings and firing squads violent?
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The primary means of execution in the U.S. have been hanging, electrocution, the gas chamber, firing squad, and lethal injection. The Supreme Court has never found a method of execution to be unconstitutional, though some methods have been declared unconstitutional by state courts.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 4:57 pm to Old Sarge
Did public hangings back in the day stop murder?
Posted on 9/26/23 at 5:00 pm to NYNolaguy1
Mandatory community service for everything but rape, assault, and murder. Make prison absolutely awful.
Use the community service to pick up trash, cut grass, and clean up shitty neighbors. If they don’t show they go to stocks, stocks twice then jail. If they service community service still must be paid.
Use the community service to pick up trash, cut grass, and clean up shitty neighbors. If they don’t show they go to stocks, stocks twice then jail. If they service community service still must be paid.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 9/26/23 at 5:01 pm to Old Sarge
They have this now. Its called Worldstar.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 5:01 pm to Old Sarge
The death penalty is a 100 percent deterrent for that particular person. They will never kill again, which should be the goal. We need to execute about 1,000 times more people than we currently do in a much more timely manner.
Not to prevent other people from killing, but to end that person's time on earth.
A small percentage of people commit crimes. The hard part is finding them. However, when we find them, they should fricking pay.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 5:05 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
You asked why the eighth amendment was relevant. Cruel and unusual punishment is not elaborated on in the Constitution, so the courts are left to decide. The analysis is very fact specific. When someone proposes violent, public executions without many parameters, an eighth amendment analysis is required. That’s why it is relevant.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 9/26/23 at 5:13 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:How many wrongfully convicted innocents executed are acceptable when we start executing many more people? How many public executions of innocents will society accept? What unintended consequences might we imagine?
The death penalty is a 100 percent deterrent for that particular person. They will never kill again, which should be the goal.
The flawed legal system full of politicians, lawyers, police and jurors who are subject to both corruption and mistakes at a significant rate makes this untenable for me. If we could exist in a world where guilt was certain without any mitigating factors, I would have fewer reservations.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 9/26/23 at 5:18 pm to Old Sarge
Extremely false.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 5:21 pm to Old Sarge
I mean, I'm for it in some circumstances, but I didn't exactly stop it in Victorian England.
It would stop recidivism though
It would stop recidivism though
Posted on 9/26/23 at 5:29 pm to Old Sarge
Trust me if making money from having inmates in jail wasn't a thing. Public executions would happen daily
Posted on 9/26/23 at 5:30 pm to Old Sarge
So you're saying we should be MORE like Muslims?
Posted on 9/26/23 at 5:31 pm to Old Sarge
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True or false: Violent, public, televised executions for convicted murderers
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Where there are multiple witnesses or irrefutable video evidence
I would say that depends on who you kill?
If you kill the right person in front of people with video evidence...some people would say probation and Community services is just fine.
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 5:45 pm to Old Sarge
False
Posted on 9/26/23 at 5:51 pm to Old Sarge
Stop no, deter yes. I would think public hangings in the area of the crime or community from where they came would make a young person contemplating a life of crime to think twice.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 5:57 pm to Old Sarge
I adhere to the "cull the herd" theory, where private executions work quite well.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:11 pm to Old Sarge
They could dig the cave of death, several hundred yards into a mountain with multiple corridors and end of life sites inside. Take the prisoner in, chain them securely to a wall and leave them there. Come back and check on them six months or a year later. As they spend their days listening to the other criminals screaming, cursing, howling, and whimpering, they would be able to consider their crime and the certain finality of punishment they were given.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:17 pm to Old Sarge
Oh no....we need to keep the same system we have because its working so well.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:21 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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Those kinds of people don't care if they live or die, typically.
But from the bravado they exhibit (recent "I'll be out in a Month" from the POS in Las Vegas) public humiliation would bother them and might just get the attention of their social classless friends.
And after humiliation, death.
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