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re: True cost of fueling an electric vehicle may be as much as $17.33 per gallon of gas
Posted on 10/27/23 at 1:00 pm to Death Before Disco
Posted on 10/27/23 at 1:00 pm to Death Before Disco
"Did You Know" They are building a COAL POWERED FACTORY, costing 4 billion dollars, near Kansas City, to produce electric car batteries. That's right, COAL POWERED. DIDNT SEE THAT IN THE NEWS.
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Posted on 10/27/23 at 1:22 pm to Death Before Disco
I would love to see a true side by side comparison of gas vs EV given that oil companies also receive their own subsidies, on top of other favorable treatment from our friends in Washington, though I doubt you will find that from the guys that wrote the OP.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 1:25 pm to Death Before Disco
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I'm against the government using my tax dollars to manipulate the
You just described the oil market
.Posted on 10/27/23 at 1:25 pm to RockoRou
That is one way to phrase what is going on with that factory.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 1:47 pm to Death Before Disco
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averaged out over 10 years
Stopped there. On average people keep their cars 5-6 years.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 1:48 pm to whatiknowsofar
Those new hydrogen cars are gonna be sweet
Posted on 10/27/23 at 1:52 pm to Hopeful Doc
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Over 4700 miles, his model 3 was cheaper to drive than my f150 by a whopping $60.
This is why hybrids are the shite. 4,700 miles would put me out about 104 gallons of gas, or about $300 at current gas prices.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 1:55 pm to whatiknowsofar
I have seen an article state Americans keep their car 8 years while the average age of cars is 12-14yrs.
Where did you get 5-6 years?
reuters - 12.5yrs
Where did you get 5-6 years?
reuters - 12.5yrs
Posted on 10/27/23 at 1:58 pm to NYNolaguy1
Doubt you will ever see one, esp one both sides agree on.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 2:12 pm to Death Before Disco
People have jobs where they spend all day giving evs that died boosts.
If you got an ev to save the planet, you are a retard.
If you got an ev to save the planet, you are a retard.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 2:19 pm to crazyLSUstudent
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Now do the true cost of gasoline without government subsidies
I’d like for you to post a list of them. But I don’t want bullshite implicit subsidies.
Btw, as far as gasoline is concerned, it’s 0 for the US.
This post was edited on 10/27/23 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 10/27/23 at 2:32 pm to WB Davis
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RA'd for Poli board.
How's that working out for ya? Bitch move, bitch.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 4:35 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:This is the least stupid part of the whole paper, and that's what you take exception to?quote:Stopped there. On average people keep their cars 5-6 years.
averaged out over 10 years
The analysis is per the life of the vehicle, not how long a particular person owns it.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:01 pm to Chad504boy
4700 miles cost him $517
I have a 3.5L EcoBoost f150 and drive ~40% highway (55mph), 40% interstate, 20% in town (or maybe 45/45/10). Commute ~90 miles daily. I’m pretty consistently at about 24mpg in the truck.
So, 4700/24=195.833
I used $3, but I can’t tell you the last time I actually paid north of 3 but didn’t want to underestimate
$587.49 (though if we add in all the “maintenance” costs he bitches about, that is about half an oil change in excess, too).
As I’ve ridiculed him since, I’m going to drive that truck a while (currently have about 130K on the odometer).
I have a 3.5L EcoBoost f150 and drive ~40% highway (55mph), 40% interstate, 20% in town (or maybe 45/45/10). Commute ~90 miles daily. I’m pretty consistently at about 24mpg in the truck.
So, 4700/24=195.833
I used $3, but I can’t tell you the last time I actually paid north of 3 but didn’t want to underestimate
$587.49 (though if we add in all the “maintenance” costs he bitches about, that is about half an oil change in excess, too).
As I’ve ridiculed him since, I’m going to drive that truck a while (currently have about 130K on the odometer).
Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:10 pm to Hopeful Doc
Do public superchargers charge a premium over one at your home?
Also isn't constant supercharging kind of a bad idea?
Also isn't constant supercharging kind of a bad idea?
This post was edited on 10/27/23 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:14 pm to fightin tigers
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Do public superchargers charge a premium over one at your home?
Depends but usually they’re higher than off peak home charging.
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Also isn't constant supercharging kind of a bad idea?
Yes. No one really lives on super chargers. There are more Teslas that have never supercharged than there are once who use them even monthly.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:49 pm to Hopeful Doc
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My buddy sent me his stats on the number of miles he drove and his fuel cost at the superchargers.
Over 4700 miles, his model 3 was cheaper to drive than my f150 by a whopping $60.
At public charges at current rates that is not at all surprising. People who have to do the majority of their charging at Superchargers will not see much or any cost benefits over gas/diesel. Those that do the majority of the charging at home will see a significant difference. Edmunds TCO stats show a 1:4 cost difference in fuel over 5 years for a Model 3 and a BMW 340i.
The real chink in the EV armor regarding cost of ownership remains depreciation.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 8:27 pm to Obtuse1
It's funny how this study can't be trusted because of it's funding. However scientists on climate change that are dependent on grants and funding from lib sources are to be trusted.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 10:05 pm to Death Before Disco
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EV advocates claim that the cost of electricity for EV owners is equal to $1.21 per gallon of gasoline
Is this even true? Because that isn’t so great
Posted on 10/27/23 at 10:12 pm to OceanMan
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Is this even true? Because that isn’t so great
Feels high. My wife charges from 10-80% for about $8.
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