re: Traveling abroad - do they hate us

Go up North where small towns are little Italy's They make the pasta and sauce home made.

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I know I don’t speak Italian, but I’m very polite. Everyone kind of seems disinterested when we speak to them at all. Just getting weird vibes the first day.


That just Europe in general. It used to piss me off but my wife (no pics) explained they think differently over there. I reset my brain when I visit now and I'm fine.

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Americans sort of have a societal expectation that you can be really casual and familar with someone right off the bat. Europeans generally, not so much.

One is not better or worse than the other. It just sort of helps to understand that going in, and have the ability to accept it for what it is. It can be easy to get tripped up on (or look at people there as coming across as rude or deliberately stand-offish) if you aren't willing to accept that.

Except for rare instances if you avoided eating pizza in Italy or anywhere in Europe you are ahead of the game....

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Where have you been there? I still assert that your statement about phony American Italian food being better is total bull.

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Rome, Naples, Amalfi, Solerno, Assisi, Florence, Verona, Vicenza, Venice.

SO here we go.

Caprese in Rome, Decent but very very sparing with the oil and Balsamic. While it was good you can get one better at Red Zeppelin Pizza in BR.



Carbonara in Rome. Was good, but nothing special. Salty enough, but light on the sauce, wouldnt knock it that hard, but being its hard to get carbonara in the US, more placed Alfredo is just as good.


I think this was Lasagna at the same place in Rome. I mean.. Basic. rather bland. And i totally understand being from where i am from everyone else in the world goes lighter on everything. Decent but nothing great.


Pizza in Amalfi - Same Decent, not great.


Veal in Assisi - Probably one of my best meals.. The bread also was the best i had over there as most of their bread has no sweatness and little salt. This bread was salty and soft.



Sandwich - I think i Florence. again decent. Bread was hard and needed some sort of fat on it betwen the meat.(salted butter or mayonnaise)


I get Italy isnt the meca of Schnitzel but here is one. Decent enough.


More pizza - Again it is good.. im not saying it isnt, but you can get just as good or netter neolean style in Baton rouge or most cities .


So we met family there in Verona(people cam in from Vicenza, Milan, Venice) and went to a nice place. Lunch started at 11 and didnt end till like 330 or 4. It was a great time. I asked the table to order for me their best dish and this is what i got... Baccala Mantecato. It was good... but not great. Im assuming it wass a local dish. Salted fish in a cream sauce.


This was the best pizza we had there in Rome. We were there for one last night and i looked up best places and there was a Bordain post about this pizza joint It was on more of a focaccia bread and not napolean style. It was really really good.







I didnt get to survey Naples like i wanted to. Thats where my wifes dad is from. I also didnt go further south than that so less of the southern italy style. My take way is the food is good... it isnt some OMG you cant get food like that anywhere else.

I wasnt trying to be some contrarian. I will say this, what you cant get other places.. Ordering the local pitcher of wine at basically any restaurant was great. Super cheap fantastic wine. Italians were decently nice to us. One group of younger people we talked to Asked if we liked Trump, (this was in 2017) and bawked when we said yes. then we got to talking and they agreed to everything we feel he was trying to do. all and all it was a great trip and something my wife and i would love to do again.

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Attempted Italian but my accent gives gay country singer so it doesn’t flow well

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Use it anyway....it humanizes you as flawed like all humans. It also indicates an attempt to connect personally. What do you care if they think you're a gay country star....you ain't ever gonna see them again and they'll have a story to tell their friends....

The problem with Rome is that it's inundated with tourists (and tourist trap restaurants). Not a lot of caring for the clients there.

Here's some food from the Piedmonte region up north near the Alps. You can see that they are more refined ddishes and very generous with the use of the white truffle. At a restaurant in NYC that's at least a couple of hundred dollars of added white truffle which was not additional cost to us.



More dishes from Piedmonte.





These are from Radda in Tuscany where the Michelin chef that owned the restaurant seated us, took our order and served us. A great experience and surprisingly inexpensive.









And finally, the aftermath of our last wine tasting at La Fortezza in Montalcino. Many cases of wine were purchased that day.

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VABuckeye

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Literally no one gives frick you went to Italy but here’s the attention and validation you want

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but didn’t realize you were along for the ride during our times in Europe. Wow!

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Just makes me wonder what you were doing to get that reaction so much. Sounds like the guy who meets assholes everyone he goes. One starts to wonder.

I do that shite to piss yall off… and it works.

Now go buy yourself into another marathon and then brag about it nerd

didnt you admit to being retard, yesterday... Someone with your disability shouldnt be as much of a dick head as you are. you bring it on yourself.