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Posted on 12/20/24 at 3:28 pm to 0x15E
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Why were they going that fast?
That's track speed. Might be 60MPH, but 70 is not unusual these days.
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Shouldn’t speed be reduced in a populated area?
No.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 3:29 pm to BuckyCheese
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No
Bizarre
Posted on 12/20/24 at 3:33 pm to Cool Hand Luke
Very true. I've always been a road dog myself. Saved my marriage. More money & being gone 36-48 hours at a time gave my wife the chance to miss me.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 3:51 pm to AlterDWI
I hated the yard and couldn't wait to get out. Transferred to a road terminal as soon as I could.
Rolling 3 or 4 tracks out of the bowl to the departure tracks, for the shift, while everyone moved in ultra slow speed was not for me. Hated it and hated Chicago.
Catching the hump was the worst but at least I could read a book while doing that.
Rolling 3 or 4 tracks out of the bowl to the departure tracks, for the shift, while everyone moved in ultra slow speed was not for me. Hated it and hated Chicago.
Catching the hump was the worst but at least I could read a book while doing that.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 5:15 pm to BuckyCheese
A train derailment is something you’ll never forget.
Ive heard stories of train operators and what they see throughout their careers. Each of you guys must have enough stories to fill a book. I can only imagine just motoring along everything fine then in a blink of an eye plunging ahead with no means to stop or even turn.
God Bless you guys.
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 12/20/24 at 5:28 pm to TxWadingFool
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They were probably a 1/4" away from throwing a red light signal that may have warned the train depending on where the lights are in that area. Those concrete crossing panels across the tracks sit about a 1/4" above the top of the rails, presumably the trailer was sitting flat across the panels a 1/4" or so above the rails, if the trailer would have been sitting on both rails it would have shown something on the track and thrown a red light up along the line, dispatch would have gotten a warning and they could have passed it along to the crew depending on the timing of everything.
So there’s a warning system that tells you if something gets high-centered on the tracks, but it doesn’t work at crossings because the crossing panels are higher than the tracks?
Am I crazy or does that seem.. counterproductive?
Posted on 12/20/24 at 5:42 pm to lostinbr
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So there’s a warning system that tells you if something gets high-centered on the tracks, but it doesn’t work at crossings because the crossing panels are higher than the tracks?
The signal system, I'm talking the signals the train crews follow, not the warning lights for drivers at crossings, uses current in the rails to detect the track occupancy as the steel wheels and axles complete the circuit.
It is not a warning system for something, other than a railcar, being on the track. The poster was just suggesting that is the flatbed had completed the circuit, like a train, it would have dropped the signal red for the train, which is plausible. That is not what it is designed for however.
*Grade crossing signals also use current in the rails for train detection. Modern systems can actually measure the speed of the train to correctly time the gates going down so you don't sit there forever if a train is coming at 10MPH. Or stops.
That's very basic. A signal maintainer could give a better, more technical, description.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:08 pm to BuckyCheese
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It is not a warning system for something, other than a railcar, being on the track. The poster was just suggesting that is the flatbed had completed the circuit, like a train, it would have dropped the signal red for the train, which is plausible. That is not what it is designed for however.
Ah ok. That makes sense.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:03 pm to Funky Tide 8
I think what the investigation is going to reveal is that the boys on the train fell asleep. There's no logical reason to t-bone an oversized load at 70.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:50 pm to BuckyCheese
I’ve shorted the circuit with a backhoe front bucket once and the lights and signals started flashing. Could’ve thrown a piece of metal across the tracks. 
Terrible wreck there.
Terrible wreck there.This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:43 pm to BuckyCheese
Nailed the explanation, thanks. I've been on the MOW side for 35 years now, been around 7 fatalities over the years, some I don't even want to think about, no forgiveness working around trains.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 1:08 pm to TxWadingFool
Just saw this on the news. Did we ever figure out how long it was stuck?
Do these truck crews have any sort of train schedule access or ability to call in so they don’t cross with a huge load within say 15 mins of a train coming?
If the truck had been stuck an hour it doesn’t appear to be any police around? You’d think they would at least call non emergency police?
It doesn’t appear as though it just happened seconds ago though either because there was a decent amount of traffic backed up? But that seems to be a busy road also.
Do these truck crews have any sort of train schedule access or ability to call in so they don’t cross with a huge load within say 15 mins of a train coming?
If the truck had been stuck an hour it doesn’t appear to be any police around? You’d think they would at least call non emergency police?
It doesn’t appear as though it just happened seconds ago though either because there was a decent amount of traffic backed up? But that seems to be a busy road also.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 1:15 pm to carguymatt
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the investigation is going to reveal is that the boys on the train fell asleep. There's no logical reason to t-bone an oversized load at 70.
You didn’t read the thread did you?
Posted on 12/21/24 at 1:26 pm to AlterDWI
It’s the picture UPS took for confirmation of delivery of a bunch of freight cars.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 1:55 pm to TheHarahanian
Some industrial facility is also going to be screwed now that their year long lead time for that $1MM+ piece of equipment is destroyed
Posted on 12/21/24 at 1:58 pm to carguymatt
quote:you’re a couple fries short of a happy meal, pal
think what the investigation is going to reveal is that the boys on the train fell asleep. There's no logical reason to t-bone an oversized load at 70.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:56 pm to absolute692
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Some industrial facility is also going to be screwed now that their year long lead time for that $1MM+ piece of equipment is destroyed
Ntsb says it was a wind turbine base.
https://www.firstalert7.com/2024/12/21/ntsb-releases-preliminary-report-following-pecos-train-crash/?outputType=amp
ETA: NTSB is apparently wrong.
This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 5:22 am
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:36 pm to Theduckhunter
Posted on 12/21/24 at 11:58 pm to Theduckhunter
It’s a demethznizer tower for a cryogenic plant
This post was edited on 12/21/24 at 11:59 pm
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