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re: Toyota reworking their entire EV strategy to better compete with the Americans
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:32 pm to BuckyCheese
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:32 pm to BuckyCheese
From your link
Looks 10 years old to me.
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Production: 2013-Present
Looks 10 years old to me.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:32 pm to dewster
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What I have concerns with is how we are going to source all of this material for battery production, and how we are going to beef up our electrical grid to support Level 2 chargers at every home in 10-15 years.
The left views this as their version of the Great Leap Forward. Side effects and consequences don't matter to the leftist elites because they'll be insulated from it all, as usual.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:35 pm to member12
Its not feasible or sustainable
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:36 pm to billjamin
Try reading the rest of the article.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:55 pm to BuckyCheese
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Try reading the rest of the article.
Damn, then it must really suck that an old arse car spanks the Uber modern chassis car.
LINK
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:05 pm to member12
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EV's are catching on way faster than they predicted last yea
Not among consumers. Companies are trying to force the shite but most don’t want them
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:08 pm to billjamin
I see you and Obtuse only worry about straight lines.
The CT5V Blackwing beat both the M5 CS and a modified Plaid around VIR in Car and Driver's testing.
Impressive considering the Plaid has shown over 1000hp at the wheels while the Caddy only has 668 crank horsepower.
*Tells me the Tesla chassis is shite.
The CT5V Blackwing beat both the M5 CS and a modified Plaid around VIR in Car and Driver's testing.
Impressive considering the Plaid has shown over 1000hp at the wheels while the Caddy only has 668 crank horsepower.
*Tells me the Tesla chassis is shite.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:10 pm to BuckyCheese
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I see you and Obtuse only worry about straight lines.
Watch the video.
Or just go to the end with the track times.
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Impressive considering the Plaid has shown over 1000hp at the wheels while the Caddy only has 668 crank horsepower.
typical excuses I hear after watching people get drug around COTA by some baw in a electric sedan. (not me I actually like fast cars)
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:18 pm to billjamin
Excuse? That 668hp at the crank beat the car with 400+, likely 500 at the wheels, more horsepower around VIR in testing? Point out the excuse.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:20 pm to billjamin
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And better batteries.
No, not better. Bigger, more of them, but the energy density of lithium-ion chemistry has seen virtually no practical improvement in more than 2 decades of research.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:22 pm to Clames
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No, not better. Bigger, more of them,
Better is more than energy density. The newer models are degrading and performing much better than the older ones. A learning curve that every other auto manufacturer is going to have to go through.
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but the energy density of lithium-ion chemistry has seen virtually no practical improvement in more than 2 decades of research.
Big things popping. I just reviewed a new battery company that’s getting double digit energy density improvement. They already cleared IE and were funded to start building their manufacturing plant.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:23 pm to BuckyCheese
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Excuse? That 668hp at the crank beat the car with 400+, likely 500 at the wheels, more horsepower around VIR in testing? Point out the excuse.
But gets spanked at Willow Spring and COTA
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:31 pm to billjamin
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The newer models are degrading and performing much better than the older ones.
Nothing to do with the batteries. The software governing the charge/discharge characteristics and thermal management has improved but battery technology has hit a plateau here with respect to chemistry and form factor. The laws of physics don't give a shite how you or any other EV homer feels, unless there is an order of magnitude improvement in charge rate and energy density then EV's will continue to be hobbled against the ICE in terms of range, convenience, and overall practicality.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:31 pm to billjamin
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This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:32 pm to billjamin
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Damn, then it must really suck that an old arse car spanks the Uber modern chassis car.
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drag race
People still care about this in production vehicles?
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:35 pm to whiskey over ice
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Am I the only one around here who doesn’t want an EV?
No desire to own one unless at some point they become better than a gas burner in every way and comparably priced.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:35 pm to Clames
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Nothing to do with the batteries. The software governing the charge/discharge characteristics and thermal management has improved but battery technology has hit a plateau here with respect to chemistry and form factor.
I left out reliability which is directly battery related but yes much of the gains are from better management of the battery charge/discharge and thermal control.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:36 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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People still care about this in production vehicles?
you didn’t watch the video did you? Just read the misleading title?
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:37 pm to billjamin
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you didn’t watch the video did you? Just read the misleading title?
I don't care about either. I replied to what you posted.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:38 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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I don't care about either. I replied to what you posted.
Where did I say drag race?
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