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re: Tornado outbreak, 94 dead, Upwards of 100 unaccounted for search/rescue & cleanup ongoing
Posted on 12/14/21 at 5:05 pm to beebefootballfan
Posted on 12/14/21 at 5:05 pm to beebefootballfan
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Inside Adams Cotton Gin in Leachville. Trying to salvage 5 million dollars worth of Cotton.
A good bit of it can be salvaged, assuming the gin itself wasn't damaged. It will be hell, though, if there is much debris in it.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 5:19 pm to LegendInMyMind
I said the other day that we don't yet know the extent at which this particular tornado will be studied. Here's one aspect that will be looked into in the future:
@KGSNews (Kentucky Geological Survey)
The Quad-State Tornado, especially, was picked up on seismological equipment in places.
@KGSNews (Kentucky Geological Survey)
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Earthquake monitoring stations in the Kentucky #Seismic and Strong-Motion Network recorded strong ground vibrations associated with the storms that produced the December 10-11 tornadoes that passed through western & central #Kentucky. More: LINK
#KentuckyStrong LINK
The Quad-State Tornado, especially, was picked up on seismological equipment in places.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 5:27 pm to LegendInMyMind
Some of the small details that ultimately determine an EF rating:
@weathertrackus

@weathertrackus
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Images From Tim Marshall on Facebook: First Presbyterian Church in Mayfield damage.
This church was constructed incredibly well.
(imo, this may serve as a good EF5 DI).
#kywx #wxtwitter LINK



Posted on 12/14/21 at 5:36 pm to LegendInMyMind
@SimonStormRider
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@WX_ManMike found termination of longtrack AR/MO/TN tornado northeast of Samburg, TN South of KY Border. Will post coordinates later. Currently looking for start of longtrack KY Tornado.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 6:20 pm to LegendInMyMind
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@SimonStormRiderquote:
@WX_ManMike found termination of longtrack AR/MO/TN tornado northeast of Samburg, TN South of KY Border. Will post coordinates later. Currently looking for start of longtrack KY Tornado
So it sounds like it won't be a quad-state tornado... also probably means it officially will not supplant the tri-state tornado as longest singular tornado in US history
Though the tri-state tornado may not deserve that distinction in the 1st place
Posted on 12/14/21 at 7:09 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Willful ignorance is really the correct answer. No one seems to want to say it, though. Weather information is more accessible today than it has ever been. You almost have to actively avoid it if you put forth a modicum of effort to stay even halfway informed.
I try to keep myself informed most of the time. But we get busy, we get complacent, and surprises do happen.
I think I told you about this a few months ago.
We had several days in a row of severe weather in Chicago. One evening in that spell of bad weather I had to make an emergency trip to the store to get diapers for my daughter. At that moment my house in the far western suburbs was not in the warning or path of anything, and the nearest severe storm was 30+ miles to our west in Sycamore. I misjudged how fast it was moving to the east. In the time it took for me to get to Costco, get what I needed, and get out, I was in the path of a tornado warned storm. Didn’t realize it until the hail started and I heard the sirens+ my phone beeping over the weather in the car. I was in the path of this:

Since I was driving, I called my dad because he can quickly read a radar and knows how to recognize a hook echo. Once we figured out it was a mile or so in front of me, I made a left turn and moved south very quickly and was out of it in less than 2 minutes.
TL:DR - these things can escalate quickly. I can easily see how an employee in a giant building with few windows like Amazon, a candle factory, or that Corvette plant may not even notice the warning signs of an approaching tornado over the noise of the equipment inside. It can go from normal to chaos very quickly.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 7:18 pm to dewster
Subtle “im a Costco member” brag thread
Posted on 12/14/21 at 7:27 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Images From Tim Marshall on Facebook: First Presbyterian Church in Mayfield damage.
This church was constructed incredibly well.
(imo, this may serve as a good EF5 DI).
#kywx #wxtwitter LINK
Most of the Mayfield damage is just astounding. The story about the candle factory is really sad to see. It's pretty rare that an entire factory gets completely crushed like that, even in a direct hit. Although looking at it on street view, it does appear to be a largely pre-fabricated structure.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 7:43 pm to dewster
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I can easily see how an employee in a giant building with few windows like Amazon, a candle factory, or that Corvette plant may not even notice the warning signs of an approaching tornado over the noise of the equipment inside. It can go from normal to chaos very quickly.
It's a managers job to keep an eye on the weather. Not the people out on the line.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 7:46 pm to dewster
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TL:DR - these things can escalate quickly. I can easily see how an employee in a giant building with few windows like Amazon, a candle factory, or that Corvette plant may not even notice the warning signs of an approaching tornado over the noise of the equipment inside. It can go from normal to chaos very quickly.
Your situation was a mistake, if you even want to call it that. Sometimes you just do what you have to do and hope for the best.
My "willful ignorance" comment stemmed from the people who said they were out hunting and had "no idea" bad weather was even coming. That takes effort to not know. They weren't doing something out of necessity, they were on a hunting trip.
I understand need leading you to a tight spot. Hell, I was three miles from where the Hackleburg/Phil Campbell EF5 crossed the Tennessee River because I had to work. Had that three miles turned to zero, I would have a different story, but it would not have been due to poor forecasting or "little or no warning".
At a certain point, personal responsibility and accountability factors in. The only person you can rely on to keep yourself and those who rely on you safe is yourself and the knowledge you can obtain, a knowledge that is more easily obtained today than ever before in our history. Too many people lack that outlook, and that is why we hear the same stories every time a weather event like this occurs.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:01 pm to LegendInMyMind
So I found a YouTube channel called Storm Coverage. I got to watch the live feed of WPSD and KFVS from Friday night. Come to find out, the tornado was 200 yards S give or take from my house. If it didn’t turn more NE, then it might have been worse.
I’m still sitting in the dark. Crews are still working 24/7 to restore power and more water pressure. There’s people from all over serving free food, cases of water. It really is an all hands on deck situation here.
If you have any questions, reply to this post.
I’m still sitting in the dark. Crews are still working 24/7 to restore power and more water pressure. There’s people from all over serving free food, cases of water. It really is an all hands on deck situation here.
If you have any questions, reply to this post.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:07 pm to Pisco
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I’m still sitting in the dark. Crews are still working 24/7 to restore power
If you're like me it will come back on in the middle of the night. The side table lamp will come on, you'll wake up confused, reach up, turn off the light, grab your flashlight, and start walking around in the house for a good three or four minutes before you realize the error of your ways.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:55 pm to beebefootballfan
That one blew the cotton back out into the fields back onto the stalks like it had never been picked
As a life long farmer I had never seen anything like it
As a life long farmer I had never seen anything like it
Posted on 12/14/21 at 9:04 pm to BuckyCheese
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It's a managers job to keep an eye on the weather. Not the people out on the line
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:21 am to LegendInMyMind
Minnesota catching a moderate risk in December, thats new.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:09 am to Duke
Gonna be a Minnesota thread today?
Edit: Iowa main “target”
Edit: Iowa main “target”
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 9:24 am
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:22 am to okietiger
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NWS Louisville @NWSLouisville
Here is our latest tornado damage survey map. Additional surveys will continue today. #kywx
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:41 am to rt3
Been meaning to ask some of the experts here:
Is the TorCon deal bullshite?
Is the TorCon deal bullshite?
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 10:14 am
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:47 am to okietiger
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Been making to ask some of the experts here:
Is the TorCon deal bullshite?
it's my uneducated opinion that Tor:Con is TWC's bastardized version of the NWS's severe weather scale (low, moderate, high, etc.)
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