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re: TOPS meant to keep college educated people in LA, instead it is funding TX's workforce
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:17 pm to Scruffy
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:17 pm to Scruffy
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How does paying for others to go college when they immediately leave afterwards benefit the state?
Because 100 percent doesnt leave...and some that do will return later on if jobs are here.
TOPS is not the problem....Tops Recipients leaving arent the problem.
Louisiana Job Market is the problem.
Changing Tops wont solve the problem.
Focus on the problem instead of focusing on the by-product of the problem.
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Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:18 pm to chinhoyang
So are some experienced executives. You walk outside your condo in Dallas and see Ferraris while you walk out your condo in downtown NOLA and see crack heads passed out on the sidewalk in the middle of the day.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:18 pm to theenemy
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So kind of like an indentured servant system.
Call it what you want. No one is forced to use TOPS if they add a residential post grad requirement.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:20 pm to theenemy
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Louisiana Job Market is the problem.
Changing Tops wont solve the problem.
It's clearly a terrible investment if people are leaving. Returning that money to tax payers would be a good start.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:22 pm to slackster
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Call it what you want. No one is forced to use TOPS if they add a residential post grad requirement.
And what will that help?
Wont create more jobs, just more barista's with degrees leaving with their parents.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:22 pm to slackster
quote:Exactly.
It's clearly a terrible investment if people are leaving. Returning that money to tax payers would be a good start.
The current investment is terrible.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:24 pm to theenemy
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And what will that help?
Wont create more jobs, just more barista's with degrees leaving with their parents.
Are you slow?
It will save the state money. That money can be invested elsewhere or returned to tax payers.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:25 pm to slackster
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It's clearly a terrible investment if people are leaving. Returning that money to tax payers would be a good start.
Lol......lol......you think they are going to return tax money to tax payers.....rofl....that's funny.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:26 pm to theenemy
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Lol......lol......you think they are going to return tax money.....rofl....that's funny.
I don't think they're going to do anything about any of this, but it doesn't change what would be the best way to proceed.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:27 pm to slackster
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will save the state money. That money can be invested elsewhere or returned to tax payers.
Lol....yes because our govt is great stewards of our money.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:27 pm to slackster
quote:Apparently, the only place it can be invested “wisely” is the current system.
It will save the state money. That money can be invested elsewhere or returned to tax payers.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:30 pm to Parmen
My son went to Dallas area and loves it. I encouraged this move.
As far as being taxed for this program, I'm glad to help any young person get out of this shitehole.
As far as being taxed for this program, I'm glad to help any young person get out of this shitehole.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:30 pm to slackster
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don't think they're going to do anything about any of this, but it doesn't change what would be the best way to proceed.
I get what your saying...but I have no faith in our politicians using any money they recover wisely.
The money is gonna be used on waste...I would rather help hard working students.
I dont have a problem with Tops students who dont graduate paying it back though
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:35 pm to theenemy
I get where you’re coming from but you can’t make policy decisions with that logic. The state is basically funding job training for Texas. It’s unfair to the tax payers.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:35 pm to Parmen
Convert TOPS to a loan. No payments made during school. When you graduate, if you maintain residence in LA, then the state makes your payments on a 5 yr payment plan. If you leave early, the state stops making payments
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:38 pm to Odysseus32
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Nice try, but no. Not like TOPS.
How so many of you are against higher education for all blows my mind.
Do NOT lecture me on this subject.
My plan out of high school was to just go to a trade school to learn a trade. Half way into the program I changed my mind and applied to LSU. It was too late to get TOPS by then so when I was admitted, I used student loans and some savings to pay for my tuition and fees. My parents weren't able to pay for this for me so I was left to pay for it all myself.
I lived at home and commuted back and forth to save money.
I paid off my student loans four years after graduating. I did LSU without TOPS just fine. If I did it with a fricking humanities degree then literally EVERYONE else can do it without TOPS as well. I understand LSU now requires freshmen to live on campus so commuting as a freshman isn't an option anymore. Okay, so be it. Live on campus and pay for that too if you want to go to LSU. Every student has a choice where to go (within their abilities). If you can't afford to go to a particular school THEN DON'T frickING GO THERE.
TOPS is not a success story for Louisiana. As the OP stated, it is sucking Louisiana taxpayers dry to pay for the education of those who will leave this state after graduation to take their return on OUR investment elsewhere. We are funding our own damn brain drain.
Do not tell me TOPS is a good thing because it is not and it's possible to get a fine education without it.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:42 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Make TOPS recipients stay in state for minimum of four years after graduation or they have to pay it back.
This is a horrible idea.
How about the state just gets their shite together and give these graduates attractive job options, better school systems, roads, etc, etc to entice them to stay in state.
If someone has better options elsewhere, the solution isn't to prevent them from pursuing it. The solution is to become a comparable or better option.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:44 pm to Parmen
Of course it is. Smart people realized this over five years ago.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:45 pm to MissWalkOn
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Nice idea but will never happen.
Probably unconstitutional anyway
Canes and CFA would have the most educated cashiers if this was the case
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:53 pm to Parmen
Advocate puts this out after the election, I wonder why?
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