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Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:17 am to
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:17 am to
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You are literally the worst person on this entire site.


Maybe on the OT, but there is more pure evil on the poliboard. Way worse.

You have progs on the poliboard that are not only OK with the man beating the shite out of the woman, but they are also OK with mass rape of teenage girls by migrants/trannies, as long as the victim of the rape can get an abortion.

I shite you not.

As the father of a daughter, it frightens me that we have Americans who think this way, purely due to their politics. They will literally support the destruction of their own children/families for the cause.....then tell anyone who opposes they are in a "cult".
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:31 am to
A few obviouse difference would be

1. You absolutely need to eat to survive. People can and do live after sex changes, and on hormone but also many people don’t don’t medically transition to full surgery.

2. If liposuction helped anorexic women eat I think doctors would do it.
This post was edited on 10/18/24 at 9:34 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88027 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:40 am to
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1. You absolutely need to eat to survive. People can and do live after sex changes, and on hormone but also many people don’t don’t medically transition to full surgery.
Bulimia then. Plenty of people “survive” eating then throwing up.
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2. If liposuction helped anorexic women eat I think doctors would do it.
Why are you throwing out pointless, unrealistic hypotheticals?
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
10355 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:43 am to
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As the father of a daughter, it frightens me that we have Americans who think this way, purely due to their politics.


Doesn't frighten me at all. If push comes to shove there will be less of them. If my daughter is involved I have no problem going to prison for life to take out a POS. Zero thought. I'll delete them.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:44 am to
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they are also OK with mass rape of teenage girls by migrants/trannies, as long as the victim of the rape can get an abortion. I shite you not.
I’d be willing to bet you can’t find a link to a post to support this statement. This is looks like OML level strawmanning. I could be wrong, so let’s see it.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:45 am to
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Bulimia then. Plenty of people “survive” eating then throwing up.


and some people don’t.

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Why are you throwing out pointless, unrealistic hypotheticals?


Well… you asked this like 1 post ago:

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If a young girl has anorexia or bulimia believing herself to be overweight, should a doctor affirm that belief and prescribe diet pills or liposuction?


Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88027 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:46 am to
I also love the logic of starving yourself is harmful but chemical castration isn’t.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88027 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:50 am to
I asked it because doctors aren’t expected to “fix” anorexia by affirming it and prescribing pills or a surgery. Yet they do for trans kids. But you’re okay with it because you think it’s a benefit mentally. Is it though? And even if it were, is it worth it? You seem to think that if an anorexic person were on diet pills and that made her happy, then a doctor should be allowed to prescribe them.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:55 am to
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I also love the logic of starving yourself is harmful but chemical castration isn’t.


Harmful is relative.

People get vasectomies. That’s objectively stopping a natural bodily function. but is it “harmful”

if you don’t want kids hard to argue it is.

Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:57 am to
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But you’re okay with it because you think it’s a benefit mentally. Is it though? And even if it were, is it worth it? You seem to think that if an anorexic person were on diet pills and that made her happy, then a doctor should be allowed to prescribe them.
I find it hard to believe that the best treatment for this mental/psychological defect is to lean into it. Maybe I’m wrong, but it’s clearly immoral to do/allow for kids whose brains aren’t even fully developed. With respect to the OP, if I understood what I read correctly, the trans person, a minor, is legally allowed to get hormone therapy without their parent’s knowledge or consent. That’s immoral and should be illegal. I can’t even believe it’s a real thing.
This post was edited on 10/18/24 at 10:00 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:58 am to
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I asked it because doctors aren’t expected to “fix” anorexia by affirming it and prescribing pills or a surgery.


again it’s pretty results driven.

What does affirming AN look like? Telling them they are in fact correct and they do need to lose weight? Would that make them feel better or worse? Would that make them more or less likely to be able to function going forward?

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Yet they do for trans kids.


So if you’re just talking about kids, I don’t think any permanent medical intervention is appropriate.

I am also extremely skeptical of hormone blockers because while they have been used to delay puberty in kids who start puberty incredibly young, their intended purpose hasn’t been long term use like we’re seeing here. I doubt people can’t stop them after years and go through normal puberty.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88027 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:58 am to
Should a 14 year old be allowed to get a vasectomy?

And you are right. Harm is relative. My son would be perfectly happy never going to school again. But I would be arrested if he stayed home with no education. There’s no real physical harm. But it’s harmful to his wellbeing. So I’m not allowed to make him “happy” in that sense. Same should apply here.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:59 am to
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People get vasectomies.

1. Reversible
2. Not as a treatment for a psychological defect
3. Not minors without the knowledge and consent of their parents

Not a great analogy
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39681 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 10:02 am to
Doubtful.

And doctors (or, extremely few) aren't doing full-on sex change surgery anymore either. Historically, the outcomes are extremely poor. Not from a surgical sense, but from a mental health sense.
The patients are still mentally ill after the surgery and just as depressed and sick as before.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 10:03 am to
If we’re just talking about minors, I do agree with you that we shouldn’t be pushing permanent medical intervention.

I would also agree that providers are over zealous in affirmative care for all ages.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 10:05 am to
Is it possible that both were wrong? Pierced Lip's friend for starting shite on social media; Pierced Lip for taking up for her and starting a fight; and finally, Tranny for beating the shite out of Pierced Lip.

Seems like all involved have their share of guilt in this.

Does Tranny have problems: yes.
Is Pierced Lip a POS: probably.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 10:11 am to
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Is it possible that both were wrong? Pierced Lip's friend for starting shite on social media; Pierced Lip for taking up for her and starting a fight; and finally, Tranny for beating the shite out of Pierced Lip.


This is what i’ve been saying for about 17 pages.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 10:22 am to
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This is what i’ve been saying for about 17 pages.
You didn't really expect a homophobic board to view this event objectively, did you?

I mean, just look at the title of the thread.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 10:29 am to
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You didn't really expect a homophobic board to view this event objectively, did you?


of course not.

Posted by Big L
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
6146 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 10:35 am to
Yeah if my son beat up a girl for getting made fun of online I don’t think I’d expect anyone to say there’s any justification whatsoever for his actions. Y’all are looking at this differently because he ls a trans person. If he wasn’t trans and was given the same treatment as others (which is what they claim to want) there would be no consideration about online bullying. He started the violence and is responsible for it…period end of story.
This post was edited on 10/18/24 at 10:37 am
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