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re: Titanic tourist submarine goes missing

Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:24 pm to
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22566 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:24 pm to
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How? How in the cornbread frick do people like this get so wealthy?


His family has been loaded for generations I believe.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
14047 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:24 pm to
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Based on logic, the submersible made it intact to the bottom of the ocean floor. Hear me out.

Lost comm 1.5 hours into the dive. That puts it at a certain depth. The search area using the depth when comm was lost was estimated to be the size of Connecticut (what I heard).

If that submersible imploded when they lost comm, there is no way there would be a debris field near titanic. Debris would be spread out close to the size of Connecticut.

That submersible imploded on the ocean floor. That's why there's an debris field


WHOI seems to disagree.

quote:

Experts say the debris found of the Titan sub was found more than 200m from the bow of the wreck.

Carl Hartsville of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution told reporters that it was found in an area where there is "no debris" of Titanic.

He described it as an area with a "smooth bottom" adding that it was "two hundred metres plus from the bow" of Titanic.

He adds: "It's consistent with the location of last communication for an implosion in the water column.

"The size of the debris field is consistent with that implosion in the water column."
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16718 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:25 pm to
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How? How in the cornbread frick do people like this get so wealthy? Who the frick gives them the money?

Dude conned people into dropping $250,000 each to ride in a death tube with a Tractor Supply shitter in it to one of the most dangerous places on earth. It's not hard to imagine how he could swindle some VC and PE bros.
Posted by CrimsonChaos
Member since Apr 2022
151 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:25 pm to
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Gotta love some of these media questions even though they said the sub catastrophically imploded.

"What are the prospects of recovering the bodies?"

"Is there any suggestion it collided with the wreckage of the Titanic?"


I know you're not lying but I want you to be lying. No words....
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71068 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:25 pm to
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The skeptic in me says the US Navy knew this vessel was lost on Sunday


The USN probably knew almost immediately that the sub had popped after it went. I dont think much happens in the north Atlantic that they don't know about.

I mean to be fair, publicly available information made it clear that it had imploded right after it happened.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88797 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:31 pm to
Just got a blurb saying it was an implosion.
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1290 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:31 pm to
also, no way to prove they were on it

one also troubling aspect is the Renata Rojas side story

Monday morning early her friends were social messaging she was on the craft, and were freaking out.

those accounts are now gone, or locked and she has not responded on social media since sunday early

She is a movie maker, and apparently an ocean gate employee


rojas twitter

I am wondering if the "manifest was wrong"

hell, the was this guy operated, probably was a post it note on the computer monitor
Posted by DJNOS1978
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
800 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:35 pm to
Oh good lort
Posted by JustinBRLA
Melbourne, FL
Member since Sep 2006
1156 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:36 pm to
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also, no way to prove they were on it

one also troubling aspect is the Renata Rojas side story

Monday morning early her friends were social messaging she was on the craft, and were freaking out.

those accounts are now gone, or locked and she has not responded on social media since sunday early

She is a movie maker, and apparently an ocean gate employee

rojas twitter

I am wondering if the "manifest was wrong"

hell, the was this guy operated, probably was a post it note on the computer monitor


Many low-IQ conspiracy theorists are making the same mistake, don't worry. Renata Rojas was aboard the ship, not the sub. One of her friends, a documentary filmmaker named Jill Heinerth, cleared this up on Rojas's own Facebook page days ago.

Now, she very well may have been planning to be on one of the later trips on the sub this week, but I'm guessing her plans have since changed.

This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 2:37 pm
Posted by GeauxZone90
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
3269 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:37 pm to
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Damn it is hard to believe they were not inspecting that thing after every dive. When it imploded would there have been any sign of that at the surface?


I went on ocean gate LinkedIn. They do inspect the vessel and prepare it for the expedition. Must have been underestimated
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39418 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:37 pm to
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to ride in a death tube with a Tractor Supply shitter in it

And a Playstation controller to operate the vessel. Everything about this screamed non-compliant.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
116992 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:40 pm to
Didn’t they previously cut WiFi when the sub had trouble to keep it from getting out? My guess is that happened again so that’s why nobody heard from her.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36927 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:41 pm to
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The skeptic in me says the US Navy knew this vessel was lost on Sunday. The SOSOS NET would have certainly heard the acoustic anomoly produced by the implosion, add to the fact that the new ROV used went directly to the area of the debris field.


100%. But they didn’t want to say anything until they either found the debris or after the Thursday oxygen window closed.

However, while the “oxygen window” was technically open they didn’t want to be seen “wasting” resources searching for debris, they had to be searching where it would be if it didn’t implode.

It all makes sense logically looking back now. The search for the “banging” and potentially recovery was just a half hearted attempt to not look heartless until it was 100% certain
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14421 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:44 pm to
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Lost comm 1.5 hours into the dive. That puts it at a certain depth. The search area using the depth when comm was lost was estimated to be the size of Connecticut (what I heard).

If that submersible imploded when they lost comm, there is no way there would be a debris field near titanic. Debris would be spread out close to the size of Connecticut.


IQ below room temperature.
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1290 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:45 pm to
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Renata Rojas was aboard the ship, not the sub. One of her friends, a documentary filmmaker named Jill Heinerth, cleared this up on Rojas's own Facebook page days ago.

her facebook is locked, and has been since monday

Now, she very well may have been planning to be on one of the later trips on the sub this week,

she was the first alternate for this trip,


:

Why has she not responded? the ship has starlink, cell phones work

someone shot a ticktock of the deck

"Many low-IQ conspiracy theorists"

frick off
Posted by RaginRampage
Detroit Lions Fan
Member since Feb 2018
271 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:46 pm to
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Damn it is hard to believe they were not inspecting that thing after every dive.

When it imploded would there have been any sign of that at the surface?


Surface inspections would not show any fatigue on a microstructure level. And since pressure is an isotropic force, a small failure on the crystalline level could lead to a collapse of the entire vessel. They were dealing in excess of 5500 psi of external pressure. Every expedition meant cycling the material from atmospheric pressure to 5500 psi, which meant continual fatigue of the materials and joints.
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1290 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:47 pm to
that, is a reasonable arguement

comms shut down, would buy that

Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
116992 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:48 pm to
That was posted as the sub was starting the journey down. I’m pretty sure outside communication was cut after they realized there was trouble.

I wish I could remember who said it happened when they were on the ship previously, but I can’t. Maybe the reporter guy?
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 2:50 pm
Posted by RaginRampage
Detroit Lions Fan
Member since Feb 2018
271 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:49 pm to
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Just got a blurb saying it was an implosion.



Here is a youtube video of an Atmospheric implosion of a tanker under just 14.7 psi of external pressure. Imagine what happened at 5500+ psi...
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71068 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:50 pm to
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They do inspect the vessel and prepare it for the expedition


"Hey, does it look good?"

"Yea, looks about like it did last time"

"Ight fam yall bolt me up in this bitch I'm going see jack"
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