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re: Tiki tubing drowning victims were found. So sad.

Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by gmrkr5
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:15 pm to
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and the costs would be passed along to the customer



maybe less customers would die or be seriously injured. just sayin...
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:16 pm to
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so you think they would be totally cool with me parking on the road and walking my own tube down for free?

If you drove up and found a place to park and dropped into the river on your own, I doubt TT would care at all...and legally, there isn't really anything they can do about it I don't believe (since it's not their property).
Posted by lsu2006
BR
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:16 pm to
Never been tiki tubing. Looks like I never will.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
15143 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:17 pm to
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If you drove up and found a place to park and dropped into the river on your own, I doubt TT would care at all...and legally, there isn't really anything they can do about it I don't believe (since it's not their property).



i really wish a large group would try this and report the result. something tells me it wouldnt go over smoothly
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:17 pm to
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They pay them to rent the tubes, to be transported on their bus, dropped off at an entry point and the use of their sandbar when they exit the river.


So why do some tubing companies make you sign a waiver of liability before you go? (not sure if TT does this or not).

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Tiki tubing doesn't own the river.


I never once said this
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:17 pm to
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what about running and airboat up and down that stretch all day saturday and sunday?


the parish may have no motor ordinances but by all means you should be able to da that if you want
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:18 pm to
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So why do some tubing companies make you sign a waiver of liability before you go? (not sure if TT does this or not).


Probably so you can't try to sue them with some bullshite equipment claim when you're a drunken jackass.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
15143 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:18 pm to
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the parish may have no motor ordinances but by all means you should be able to da that if you want



motor ordinances on the Amite in Livingston Parish? uh no
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:18 pm to
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So why do some tubing companies make you sign a waiver of liability before you go? (not sure if TT does this or not).

Probably (just guessing) because they own the actual tubes. I assume there is some liability on their end if you could prove that the tube itself was the reason for an injury.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:18 pm to
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So why do some tubing companies make you sign a waiver of liability before you go? (not sure if TT does this or not).

They absolutely used to. I assume they still do.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:19 pm to
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maybe less customers would die or be seriously injured. just sayin...


for the amount of customers they get are there really lots of deaths/serious injuries?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38160 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:19 pm to
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Probably so you can't try to sue them with some bull shite equipment claim when you're a drunken jackass.



I'm not defending people who bring about their own demise by diving headfirst off a cliff into 3 feet water, but I do think TT should make an effort to maintain the river. Whatever, its a trash operation catering to a lot of trash
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
15143 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:20 pm to
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They absolutely used to. I assume they still do.



that waiver is their golden ticket. what business do you know that has a death occur at their establishment at least once every summer and its all good?
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:20 pm to
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motor ordinances on the Amite in Livingston Parish? uh no


then you can motor up and down the river all you want...TT can't say a damn word
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:20 pm to
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for the amount of customers they get are there really lots of deaths/serious injuries?

That's what I was saying earlier...seems like a REALLY, REALLY low % of people getting hurt/dying.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38160 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:20 pm to
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for the amount of customers they get are there really lots of deaths/serious injuries?


seems like someone drowns over every holiday. And lots of self-inflicted injury, apaprently
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:21 pm to
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that waiver is their golden ticket. what business do you know that has a death occur at their establishment at least once every summer and its all good?

Does someone die "at least once every summer" though?

Honestly asking because I have no idea. And even still...if it's one or two a year when tens of thousands of people are doing it, that seems very small.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
15143 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:21 pm to
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for the amount of customers they get are there really lots of deaths/serious injuries?



there are several every summer. i see airmed helos landing and taking off over the tree line at least 2-3 times a year. im not far from there on the EBR side of the river
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 2:22 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:23 pm to
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seems like a REALLY, REALLY low % of people getting hurt/dying.


People just love to sensationalize things that will happen when you mix water, young people, and alcohol together.

Beaches are closed during strong rip currents but people still drown when the seas are calm. You can't prevent people form drowning IMO. Sure you can make it safer but what can be done other than making them wear life jackets?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38160 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:25 pm to
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Beaches are closed during strong rip currents but people still drown when the seas are calm. You can't prevent people form drowning IMO. Sure you can make it safer but what can be done other than making them wear life jackets?




I guess if someone wants to go tubing, you can't stop them..even if they can't swim well. No easy solution to irresponsibility and stupidity. I suppose they could be more careful and not be open during hazardous conditions, but that's about all.
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