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Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:38 pm to purpleleaf
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Fixed it for you. From what I've heard anyway, these guys weren't actually jumping into the river? I don't recall Tiki tubing offering cliffs to jump off of
Ive stated several times that there is no fix for human stupidity. I was speaking generally about TT making no efforts to clean the river. People have spoken about hazards they encountered on the river that could have easily been removed.
In this instance, if these two guys decided jumping off a cliff was a good idea despite not being good swimmers, there's nothing TT can really do. My whole point is that in general, they should try and make more of an effort to reduce risk. Based off of tragedies like this, if idiots insist on going on the river, make them wear a life jacket or something.
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:38 pm to Topwater Trout
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That go float in a river when they can't swim? not tragic if you ask me...just plain stupid.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:40 pm to purpleleaf
I agree 100% that tubing when you cant swim is beyond stupid. i just think Tiki can do more to make the experience a little safer for the people that choose to go.
I've lived around the amite and comite rivers all my life. i know that alot of debris, etc lurks under the surface of those rivers. Alot of their customers dont though.
I've lived around the amite and comite rivers all my life. i know that alot of debris, etc lurks under the surface of those rivers. Alot of their customers dont though.
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:40 pm to REG861
You do realize if Tiki tubing makes one effort to clean up the river, they are assuming so much more liability then. Then an individual would have a much stronger case. Nature created the hazards, Tiki tubing doesn't want to touch that.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:41 pm to Topwater Trout
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That go float in a river when they can't swim? not tragic if you ask me...just plain stupid.
Two 26-year olds drowning to death while floating on a river is tragic to me. Something can be stupid and tragic simultaneously. Hell, the fact that it likely could have been avoided makes it even more tragic IMHO. And do we know that the people that drowned can't swim? I may have missed that part. Read the original article, but haven't read through the whole thread.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:42 pm to Festus
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That's completely different from the strict liability doctrine that you have been arguing.
Now you're just putting words in my mouth and being dishonest. When have I EVER said in this thread that it's ALL tt's fault?
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That's not a scheme.
It's referred to alternately as a system or a scheme.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:42 pm to purpleleaf
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You do realize if Tiki tubing makes one effort to clean up the river, they are assuming so much more liability then. Then an individual would have a much stronger case. Nature created the hazards, Tiki tubing doesn't want to touch that.
thats just sad
i'm not a fan of tiki tubing and would be happy to see it go
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:46 pm to REG861
My whole point is the injuries/deaths on the river are ridiculous and COULD be mitigated, whether by less stupidity in most cases or fairly easily-implemented policies such as making people wear life jackets or at least handing them out. Tube at your own risk, I guess
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:47 pm to lsu2006
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And do we know that the people that drowned can't swim?
not a fact just what i have heard
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the fact that it likely could have been avoided makes it even more tragic IMHO.
i am just curious what TT could have done to prevent this. I have heard they couldn't swim and may have been jumping off cliffs...I would think that si frowned upon by TT.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:47 pm to gmrkr5
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i'm not a fan of tiki tubing and would be happy to see it go
I live out there and couldn't agree more. The pollution/litter from the tubers along that stretch of the river is ridiculous.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:48 pm to REG861
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Tube at your own risk, I guess
pretty sure that is what the waiver is for
Its hot and you are floating with a huge group down the river...you really expect an adult to wear a life jacket?
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:52 pm to gmrkr5
For my part, I just want to make the best informed decision that I can. If 20 people have drowned on the river while tubing over the past 5 years I'd like to know that and any relevant facts available about their death.
I think that TT just needs to provide the info that is available about the real dangers of tubing. Some grown people apparently think it is ok if you have a tube but can't swim. Just tell them how stupid that is or at least have them verify that they can swim before renting to them.
Last time I rented a jet ski in Destin, they showed us a video of a guy getting killed on one. That was pretty sobering for me since I was taking my daughter out with me but they did their part in demonstrating the dangers.
I think that TT just needs to provide the info that is available about the real dangers of tubing. Some grown people apparently think it is ok if you have a tube but can't swim. Just tell them how stupid that is or at least have them verify that they can swim before renting to them.
Last time I rented a jet ski in Destin, they showed us a video of a guy getting killed on one. That was pretty sobering for me since I was taking my daughter out with me but they did their part in demonstrating the dangers.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:53 pm to purpleleaf
Historically that is one of the most dangerous stretches of the amite. Before idiots where drowning at TT they were drowning at magnolia beach
Posted on 6/23/14 at 3:01 pm to Topwater Trout
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i am just curious what TT could have done to prevent this.
I'm not saying there is necessarily something TT could have done or were even obligated to do. I'd imagine the onus would be on LP, since they're the ones that I assume grant permission for TT to even exist and use the river. But I don't know enough about the situation or who owns what. Doesn't it cross parish lines at some point?
And I find it tragic because two young people (right around my age) have died. It hits home for me. Obviously you assume risk when you do anything like this, especially with alcohol involved. Doesn't make it any less sad or terribly unfortunate.
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 6/23/14 at 3:05 pm to lsu2006
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And I find it tragic because two young people (right around my age) have died
it sucks but if it were kids it would be worse. IF people can't swim they need to avoid rivers/waters with currents....kids may not be capable of understanding this but adults should be able to.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 3:06 pm to Topwater Trout
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IF people can't swim they need to avoid rivers/waters with currents....kids may not be capable of understanding this but adults should be able to.
Agreed.
I've never been Tiki Tubing. Do they inform people of the risks of fast currents, debris, etc. before they go out there?
Posted on 6/23/14 at 3:11 pm to Topwater Trout
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you really expect an adult to wear a life jacket?
maybe one that can't swim
Posted on 6/23/14 at 3:12 pm to Monk
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Last time I rented a jet ski in Destin, they showed us a video of a guy getting killed on one
Jesus.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 3:13 pm to lsu2006
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I've never been Tiki Tubing. Do they inform people of the risks of fast currents, debris, etc. before they go out there?
been a long time since ive been out there but not from what i remember. there is no "safety course" before you get in the water if thats what your asking. im sure they have a caution sign somewhere
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