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re: Three young fathers drown in rip tide at Panama City Beach
Posted on 6/23/24 at 9:28 pm to turnpiketiger
Posted on 6/23/24 at 9:28 pm to turnpiketiger
quote:i thought Ryan Mallet died from the rip tides last year. May be what you are remembering
Wasn’t it just last summer when former Arkansas RB and NFL RB Peyton Hillis almost died from near drowning in a rip current? I think he was maybe saving his children something.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 9:30 pm to AuburnTigers
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i thought Ryan Mallet died from the rip tides last year. May be what you are remembering
It was Mallet, and it was determined that rip currents played no role in his drowning.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:02 pm to LegendInMyMind
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It was Mallet, and it was determined that rip currents played no role in his drowning.
What was determined to be the role that played into his drowning?
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:07 pm to Havoc
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Many years back at Destin area with extended family and had read Rips had been bad, so I was giving a quick class to everyone…grabbed a float, just to help visualize, and waited for one and let it take me out and around. I think it made a good impact
Honestly not a bad idea if you are an experienced swimmer. No one believes it will happen to them unless they either see it happen to someone else or experience themselves. Much of the time it takes the latter even having witnessed the former for many.
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:19 pm to wareaglepete
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A guy I used to work with drowned trying to pull his son out of one last year down there. He got his son out but then had no strength to save himself. Folks should have a very healthy respect for the ocean.
Don’t know if it’s the same man but I do remember a father drowning after pushing his son out the current several years ago.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:28 pm to real turf fan
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Have friends and family of the three young men said that they were good swimmers? Or that they had any experience swimming anywhere? It was hot and they ran into the water. What a tragedy, It took three hours for professional swimmers to recover their bodies. Additional tragedies didn't happen.
You’d be surprised how many parents, friends, & family that tell me their kids can swim. I learned to just assume they don’t know now bc a few kids had me fooled until I started really watching their technique. These kids use so much energy to just move short distances.
Almost every kid I teach has never even learned how to properly hold your hands for a basic front or back stroke.
I told my BFF last wknd that her grandson had fooled us bc he looks like he can swim in the pool but he will drown from exhaustion if he ever falls in a pool. She was mortified when I started working with him and seeing he had never grasped the basics.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:30 pm to deeprig9
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What was determined to be the role that played into his drowning?
It appears to have just been a regular drowning. Articles from a couple of days after quoted authorities as saying there were no rip currents in the area at the time and yellow flags were flying. All the news outlets seem to have reported on the day it happened that it was due to rip currents. He was trying to make it to the second sand bar, but started to struggle. I tried to find the official report, but had no luck.
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:01 am to LSUAngelHere1
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he had never grasped the basics.
This is me.
I can not drown in a pool, but I can’t swim for exercise. When my wife’s parents had a lake house, I always “swam” with a pool noodle.
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:31 am to StringedInstruments
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What an awful story. Their lives gone after stupidly jumping in the water at sunset as soon as they arrived at the beach.
Statistically safer than driving from Birmingham to PCB on a Friday in June. What is stupid about doing something millions of people do every day? It is summer....folks go to the beach. They get in the water. Doing so is risky.
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:35 am to AuburnTigers
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sharks feed at night and there have been a lot of activity in the gulf
Sharks are present in the surf day and night. It is where the food is and the water clarity is ideal for predators. Sharks feed all day. There is no more activity this year than ever....they are always present, 24/7/365. What has changed is social media. Sharks do not participate in that arena. Sharks do what they have always done and folks have the opportunity today to react hysterically to nature doing what nature has always done.
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:37 am to turnpiketiger
Wow didnt hear about that one. Glad he was able to save those children
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:39 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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If you are a strong swimmer you can tread or float for hours. But they get scared and fight it, rather than letting it take them out and then swimming back in or waiting for rescue.
I have had it happen while surf fishing. Even knowing what to do the first inclination is to fight it. No one can...it is going to do what it is going to do. The good thing is, in my experience, as soon as the current gets past the next bar it more or less disappears. Even knowing this though it is disconcerting to find yourself being pushed out past that bar. It is very disorienting...it is easy to see how people get in trouble.
On the upside its a good place to fish....anywhere along the beach where there is an obvious change in wave patterns and currents is a door between deeper water and food for predators.
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:43 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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All people don’t have equal swimming skills or knowledge of rip tides and other hazards.
Based on the end result, calling their actions stupid appears to be accurate.
I would bet at least one of them died trying to save the others. It is pretty common. Tragic anyway you slice it. I find it hard to imagine why some feel it is due to stupidity. Ignorance maybe, not knowing what to do if you find yourself in the situation, but even knowing what to do does not mean you do not initially panic or do not realize how dire the situation is until it is really serious. And if you with friends and family and one of them panics it is very common for everyone to get in trouble trying to do what people do and that is look after one another. Tragic any way you slice it.
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:44 am to bird35
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We just swam parallel to the shore and ended up way out by the time we stopped getting pulled out.
how far out did you get dragged? what is sort of normal for your average rip current? i go to the beach with my family a pretty fair amount and the rip current threat is always in the back of my mind especially with little kids. as much time as i've spent at the beach in my life, i'm actually surprised i've never had an encounter like the one you described. i feel confident that i could handle myself and swim my way out of it, but also in the back of my mind, i wonder how many men that drown in rip currents felt the same way about themselves prior.
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:50 am to Locoguan0
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Also, don't enter the water if you can't swim.
Amazing how often this sound advice is ignored. My daughter got caught in a riptide when she was sitting in about 3 inches of water in Mexico. She was 2. I luckily grabbed her as she went gliding by and damn near got washed away myself. It happened in about a mili-second...so fast I didn't even realize it for several minutes. Near mill pond conditions. By the time I regained solid footing we were about 30 feet from where we were...had I not caught her and anchored us best I could she'd been in serious trouble. Put the fear of god in me.
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:51 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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Easier said than done. Panic sets in when the rip current is pulling you out.
Its also very disorienting....it takes a second to realize that something has changed and it ain't good.
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:58 am to Sam Quint
here is a vid of what it looks like and this is at pcb.
If you ever do get caught in one just let it take you out. In this instance it wouldnt take you out that far so dont panic. I know easier said than done.
If you ever do get caught in one just let it take you out. In this instance it wouldnt take you out that far so dont panic. I know easier said than done.
This post was edited on 6/24/24 at 10:03 am
Posted on 6/24/24 at 10:50 am to LegendInMyMind
idk about Friday, but Saturday the currents were ridiculous at Fort Pickens/PEN beach. We had to put fourth some serious effort to even take a step against the current. I was sore yesterday from trying to fight it.
This post was edited on 6/24/24 at 10:51 am
Posted on 6/24/24 at 11:53 am to AuburnTigers
Just because you are a good athlete does not mean shite in the ocean during a rip. Surviving a rip has more to do with skill vs strength and a mental control to survive the panic that sets in when you feel it.....because it's real scary when you realize what is happening.
The best way is swimming parallel to the shore for about 50 to 100 yards then attempt to make your way in. A rip will exhaust you pretty fast. You have to be a real good swimmer to pull it off.....more than just a good athlete
The best way is swimming parallel to the shore for about 50 to 100 yards then attempt to make your way in. A rip will exhaust you pretty fast. You have to be a real good swimmer to pull it off.....more than just a good athlete
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