re: Threatening to shoot up a school: OT's Thoughts?

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He was also sent to JDC for 3 days, then an alternative education facility for 15 days

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Little harsh if he's just a dumb kid, but I bet he won't make that joke again.

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However, upon his return to campus he makes another threat and leaves very troublesome comments on social media. Always referring to himself as a one of the infamous people as of late to do a big public shooting.

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Uh that kid needs to be locked up somewhere.

Sounds like an infringement on 2A to me.

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One of the problems schools have (and I'm completely sympathetic) is a fear of liability. I'll give you an example. Let's say a girl reports a guy and said she heard him say he wants to shoot up the school. First, how does a school verify this information? Second, there's potential for civil liability on both ends. If the girl is right and the school does nothing, there's liability for any potential victims. If the girl is wrong or making it up and the school expels the student and gets him charged with a crime, there is definite civil liability. It's a no-win situation for the school.

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Valid point. The "he said she said" stuff is murky water. Obviously my thoughts are not fool proof its simply a suggestion that would need to be adjusted and edited in many ways.

Right. There are things kids/people say that should be taken at face value. "Do that again and I'll kill you" is something you shouldn't say in a school and should be verbally corrected.

When kids take pictures of a place to plan out how they would shoot people on campus or makes loud claims in class for all to hear how they "will shoot this MFer up" and makes extreme comments on social media about it and refers to themselves as an infamous mass murder: I'd say something needs to be done with that kid.

Couldn't be further from the truth. You sound like one of my ignorant 9th graders.

You should not be able to say aloud in class, that you plan on shooting up the school. Saying "Dude do that again and I'll kick you arse" is one thing. But blatantly making threats that are planned out and cause panic to those around the student should not be tolerated.

If you think you can "say whatever you want" then go make public threats of harm at a school near you. I'm sure people will think you're just a friendly neighborhood prankster just looking for laughs.

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"FitzBlitz52 told me he was going to shoot me tomorrow. Go arrest him". See how that works?

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Not at all what I am suggesting. Your ignorance is astounding.

When a teacher or 5 other students come forward because they heard a student say aloud they plan on shooting up a school, that student should be reprimanded. Is my original suggestion too extreme? Sure, maybe. Imagine your child is in a class and hears a kid proclaiming they will shoot up the school and shows you posts online about it and refers to themselves as an infamous mass murder, you as the parent, wouldn't you want a safer environment for your child? And have your child a part of a system willing to protect your child? That's all I'm suggesting. protect the majority from the crazy minority who want to cause harm to others in a lethal way.

You're arresting someone for a "what if" scenario

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You're arresting someone for a "what if" scenario

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And you're seeing a kid with a whole plan and letting him carry it out because you think it's somehow a protected right.

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Threats without proof of imminency should not result in any form of criminal prosecution.

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Yea this is how bad stuff ends up happening

Threats to the safety of the public should always be taken seriously.

If someone threats to shoot up a place he needs to be retained for safety concerns for himself and others.