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re: Thousands of Pine Trees are totally brown

Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:18 pm to
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
10079 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:18 pm to
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Now in the Delta there are large stands that are dying and the states are blaming on brown spot needle blight instead of the real cause which is herbicide drift


There are large stands of mature pine trees that are dying from herbicide drift? What the hell kind of chemicals are you guys spraying in the Delta?
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
47699 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:18 pm to
I was drive home on I-55 a few weeks ago from the North end of Tangipahoa Parish and noticed this. Seemed at least half of the Pines if not more were like this, completely brown.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
16396 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:26 pm to
Gramoxone is hell on pines and cypress, valor is hell on hardwoods as best I can tell, roundup causes cancer.

But the recent dead pines in NELA are off site and dead due to the heat and drought stress=> bugs and shite imo.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 8:27 pm
Posted by sabbertooth
A Distant Planet
Member since Sep 2006
5676 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:36 pm to
You are describing the dirty work of ips beetles.
They are killing weak trees. Most trees are severely stressed from the weather and lack of water. A healthy tree can fight off an ips infestation. A severely stressed tree can not.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95784 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:47 pm to
Mate that's not sweet at all
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66816 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:52 pm to
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You are describing the dirty work of ips beetles.
They are killing weak trees. Most trees are severely stressed from the weather and lack of water. A healthy tree can fight off an ips infestation. A severely stressed tree can not.

It would probably be interesting and useful to compare how pine trees in the area fared in this drought as compared to the 2011/12 drought in regards to the beetle damage. They've advanced in area and number since then, so there's probably some useful knowledge to be sorted out in research.
Posted by boot
Member since Oct 2014
2919 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:52 pm to
I don’t recall ever seeing this many pines dying in the span of a couple months.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66816 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:56 pm to
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I don’t recall ever seeing this many pines dying in the span of a couple months.

Monocultures may have something to do with that, too. We have weakened/stressed trees and a devastating pest that specializes in feeding on them. Large stands of pine trees are like the neon "Hot" sign at Krispy Kreme. Those beetles find large tracts of pine and they have it made.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19571 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:58 pm to
The hard freeze the last couple years killed many of them.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6533 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:10 pm to
Pine Beetles. They took out tons of our pine trees. You’ll see dust around them on the ground that looks like sawdust. You have to cut them down into a pile to try to prevent them spreading.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
3230 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:56 am to
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The hard freeze the last couple years killed many of them.




Wonder if this weakened them and the drought was the final nail. I've heard numerous times how a stressing event can kill trees even years down the road whether that be drought or hard freeze.

Recently I was in a area where hurricane Michael ran through a FL state forest. They of course lost a lot of trees in the initial event but in the 5 years since they continuously lose trees that "survived".
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3419 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:13 am to
They call them “zombie trees”… the freezes a few years ago caused a lot of trees to start dying with slim possibility of surviving.. people watered them hoping but they just died off in pieces.. hit the water oaks bad.. some of them were still limping along and the drought finished them..

They had an article about them in Houston..

Pines here in katy are drought .. have friends that have had them taken down

We have a bunch also just starting to show death.. they are dying from top down..
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