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Thoughts on Title IX and whether it should exist?
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:52 pm
Title IX causes schools to cut some things like men's swimming teams that can be valuable in preparing our men for the Olympics. It's not just meaningless teams that get cut as a result of Title IX.
Alas, I'd probably even rather watch men's rock climbing than watch any women's sport. (And I'd have exactly zero interest in watching men's rock climbing.)
Alas, I'd probably even rather watch men's rock climbing than watch any women's sport. (And I'd have exactly zero interest in watching men's rock climbing.)
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:03 pm to UFFan
It should absolutely exist as an education law (which is what it is). How it should be applied to sports is a different question.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:04 pm to Gravitiger
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It should absolutely exist as an education law. How it should be applied to sports is a different question.
Tell us why that is
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:07 pm to RohanGonzales
Because public education should not be allowed to discriminate based on sex. I didn't realize that was a controversial idea.
ETA: "federally funded education programs"
ETA: "federally funded education programs"
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:13 pm to UFFan
The original DEI
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:29 pm to RohanGonzales
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It should absolutely exist as an education law. How it should be applied to sports is a different question.
Tell us why that is
Because you shouldn't take people's tax dollars to support education and then arbitrarily exclude their daughters from using those same public services.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:48 pm to UFFan
It should not
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:51 pm to HogPharmer
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The original DEI
I believe that would be the emancipation proclamation.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 2:06 pm to UFFan
Card carrying Taliban members are allowed on the OT?
Go mutilate a clitoris or two.
Go mutilate a clitoris or two.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 2:12 pm to UFFan
My question is if Title 9 is an archaic fix to a problem that no longer exists.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 2:13 pm to Gravitiger
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Because public education should not be allowed to discriminate based on sex. I didn't realize that was a controversial idea.
In most basic, recognized discriminatory forms, it's not
Via disparate impact and an administration devoted to resolving imbalances regardless of whether "actual" discrimination exists, it's very controversial (and should be).
Posted on 8/18/26 at 2:37 pm to UFFan
When it came into affect in the late 1970's, fully half the high schools in Alabama, if not more, cut their boy's wrestling programs to comply. My school was one of them. I had a good shot at placing if not winning a state title the next year. 
Posted on 8/18/26 at 2:42 pm to UFFan
How many men's sports have been cut to comply with Title IX?
I've read that men's wrestling, swimming, and soccer have basically disappeared at the collegiate level.
I've read that men's wrestling, swimming, and soccer have basically disappeared at the collegiate level.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 2:51 pm to boxcarbarney
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How many men's sports have been cut to comply with Title IX?
I've read that men's wrestling, swimming, and soccer have basically disappeared at the collegiate level.
Wisconsin dropped their Men's baseball program
Posted on 8/18/26 at 2:58 pm to boxcarbarney
IIRC, LSU cut their wrestling and men’s gymnastics teams, then added women’s soccer and field hockey, to try to even out the scholly numbers for football.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 2:59 pm to TigerHornII
quote:Auburn and UA both dropped their wrestling programs due to title 9. Auburn Alumini Asociation
ascended to 9th in the nation—the highest-ever for an SEC team.
By June 1981, it was all over. Title IX, which mandated gender equality in sports, was seen as an impediment by athletic departments to the success of wrestling. One by one, programs began to close. With a personal guarantee from the athletic director that Auburn would continue, Tom turned down a head coaching job from the University of Michigan. Then the unthinkable happened.
"Auburn University has dropped wrestling as a varsity sport," The Olean Times-Herald wrote on July 20, 1981. "The university's Board of Trustees also dropped women's golf and noted that the decision on the two sports would save $130,000 in the athletic budget. Tom Milkovich, the wrestling coach for four years and the one who built Auburn into the ninth-ranking NCAA program, was stunned."
Posted on 8/18/26 at 3:29 pm to Gravitiger
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It should absolutely exist as an education law (which is what it is). How it should be applied to sports is a different question.
This is a good response. Title IX covers much more than just sports. It requires schools to respond to sexual harassment, retaliation, pregnancy, etc. I think it is a fine argument to move athletics out of Title IX. They should be separate. As it stands though, Title IX (or something similar) is necessary.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 3:31 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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exclude their daughters from using those same public services.
Look up male vs female percentages for college. If any gender is being excluded it damn sure isn’t female
Posted on 8/18/26 at 3:33 pm to UFFan
No. Idiots cannot even define what a woman is.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:10 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Because you shouldn't take people's tax dollars to support education and then arbitrarily exclude their daughters from using those same public services
Going to be real funny to see what happens when Football players are all declared Employees and, as a result, no longer eligible for scholarships. So, what will happen to those 83 scholarships? They sure as hell wont take 83 away from the women's side of the equation. Will they start offering those 83 to support other programs, like swimming or lacrosse, that were cut on account of title IX in the first place? Also no because money.
Really really wanting to see this one play out. Will make the transgender crap going on with the WNBA look like childs play.
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