re: Thoughts on taking flouride out of water?

Wasn’t trying to ruffle any feathers. Your claims just seemed a little sensationalized, and when I copied and pasted your post into Google the first thing that came up is someone trying make money by selling products to fix the problems they found doing their own research.

Just wondering if these were claims you saw on Dr. Oz or the today show. While I do understand and agree with the positive affects of nitric oxide, everything I just read seems to be pretty inconclusive at the moment about the negative effects of flouride and mouthwash on the production of nitric oxide on the back of the tongue.

Most of the places I did find a claim of negative impacts were quickly followed up with a health regime, toothpaste, or book, that you could buy to learn more. Just makes me a little skeptical.

Just as I pointed out with landmass’ link to a group of “biological”dentists who publish their own studies so they have “research” to quote as to why you should take the perfectly functional amalgam fillings out of your teeth and replace them with composite ones.

In the age of social media there is a lot of studies and claims that get thrown around and circulated as fact when they are based on some very inconclusive data.

Have you seen European teeth? I don’t know what’s up with that but their teeth in general are in horrible shape. The breath this folks have is most undesirable.
Lack of dentists I don’t know?

Most toothpaste has fluoride and kids get fluoride treatment at the dentist twice a year. I don't see why fluoride has to be in water

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There is no health benefit of fluoride in water.

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Dental hygiene is pretty positive for your health.

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It can actually damage teeth and bones.

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wut?

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It's a toxin and the human body can't really handle it.

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Yet, here we all are. Alive today. You realize, just because a "toxin" is in something, doesn't make it harmful. Ever heard of PPM?

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It should have been removed a long time ago.

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But it wasn't. Are there flouride related deaths i'm not aware of?

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There’s literally no short or long term risk of adverse outcomes if we take it out of the water.

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That is likely false.

There was a Canadian study where two fairly large cities (forgot which ones) were compared after one took fluoride out of the tap water. There was a significant increase in childhood cavities in the city that removed it. Heart disease risk goes up significantly with poor oral health. My wife says that, outside of IV drug use oral health is the strongest indication of the root problem for heart valves she replaces in younger patients. This is from infective endocarditis.

I am more or less 50/50 on the idea of removing fluoride but I think there will be unintended consequences either way, there almost always is.

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Fluoride is a disinfectant/sanitizer. It destroys the bacterial biome on the back of your tongue which leads to all manner of cardiovascular problems.
It’s a fascinating process that involves production of nitric oxide. You have probably heard of the importance of nitric oxide production. Fluoride and antibacterial mouth rinses have been wrecking our bodies for decades.

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I am friends with quite a few cardiologists and heart surgeons, and they have preached the ills of alcohol based mouthwash for years, but I have never heard one of them mention fluoridated water as an issue. That is almost certainly a molarity issue, but I don't know at what point it shifts from being benign to destructive, and how that compares to the level in drinking water.

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The only conclusion to draw from the continued presence of fluoride in drinking water is that it serves to harm and not benefit individuals.

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Well, that can't be true. I just read a bunch of differing opinions in this very thread.

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poor people who can't afford toothpaste

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I have a couple of dozen tubes of toothpaste at home and they were all free by combining coupons with store promotions. I have not paid for toothpaste since 2008. This is something anyone can do.

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Well, that can't be true. I just read a bunch of differing opinions in this very thread.

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There is no vascular structure that reaches into the dentin or comes close to the enamel of our teeth. If there is something you ingest into your body but can't reach the location it is intended to support, then why is it there?

No opinion, but RFK is a nut.