re: Thoughts about systemic racism

The conversation needs to change, but the people that "lead" the conversation have a conflict of interest because they're vested in the existence of widespread racism.

Without question, it is better to be white than black in this country, but that has little to do with explicit racism and more to do with human nature and being in the majority. White kids are born to white parents, who were also born to white parents, and so on and so forth. They're likely to have associated with mostly white friends. Those white friends and family members, being the majority race, are more likely to own companies and/or be in positions of power. Human nature lends itself to hiring and surrounding yourself with people similar to you, and as a result, we tend to hire more white people. There are many people who fail to acknowledge this cycle, and there are many people who think this cycle is racism, and they're both wrong.

I think many of us agree that we're going to hire the best people available, regardless of race, and that's true. The "problem" is that we're not always exposed to the absolute best candidates due to the social circles we frequent. Not to trigger the board, but that is the heart of the "white privilege" concept. That being said, I'm not sure what we're supposed to do about it, and I'm damn sure not going to apologize for what amounts to human nature.

I think you could make a fairly compelling argument that it is also systematic.

It's clear that black people were systematically held down by our government... at the hands of white people.

There's only been two generations of black people who could actually vote. That's insane.

I wish there were no racism.

They have to "want" to make the change!

How about conditional racism.

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There's only been two generations of black people who could actually vote. That's insane.

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FYI, you're going to have a hard time arguing a contrarian view point on this board, particularly when you start off with lies like this. The 15th amendment was ratified 146 years ago, and going by "generations" being roughly equal to 30 years, we're working on the 5th generation of black voters.

Its that Rap music

An issue that i want to bring up:
To set up my thought a few observations.

The BLM thing isnt about cops vs blacks. Its about whites vs blacks. Black people think the police are just an arm of the white man. IF you are black and a cop, you are white.

Therefore animosity against cops and "the system" is animosity against white people. Some of this is less veiled than others. You often hear BLM and the like say things specifically about white people as a whole. This would be racism. Obviously.

Finally, Ive heard a lot of BLM people/Black leaders/Left leaning apologists say things like "I dont condone violence or violent/offensive rhetoric, but to some extent you can understand..." This implies, that in their minds, racism is justifiable considering the causes.

This means that once you prove something is racist (which is a-whole-nother enchilada) thats just the beginning of the conversation. You must then determine whether the cause of said racism is such that the racism is justifiable.


Im very curious if certain people are willing to begin applying the logical thought process they created to all events, both past/present/future.

The only bone I'll give blacks is on drugs. So many of them get behind because of tic tack criminal offenses for weed.

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Poor people are at a significant disadvantage in this country. It just so happens that black and Hispanic children are significantly more likely to be born into poor families, but you can't just disregard the fact that, on average, it is better to be white than black or Hispanic.

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Just because if you are rich you are more likely to be white, doesnt mean that being white makes you more likely to be rich. It doesnt work that way. Causation/correlation and what not.