re: Thoughts about systemic racism

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You can discuss the reasons for that forever, but without knowing anything about the social or economical dynamics of the family-to-be, are you putting your money on the white baby or the black baby?

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So ignoring the largest predicting factors and only going on race? What is considered "winning" in this?

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Let's go with something simple like graduating college.

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Liberal Arts degree or something useful?

Ghetto blacks blame whites for all their troubles. They take no personal responsibility for their failings. When they choose crime to earn a living, they don't blame themselves when they are arrested, they blame racist cops or racist white lawmakers. You have ghetto blacks that work for a living, but are bitter because they aren't educated enough to earn enough to get ahead in life.

Then you have the ghetto blacks that go to college, but still hate whites and say they won't hire them. And, frankly there are a lot of whites that won't hire them. The reason is because there is a risk that if they have to discipline or fire them, they will scream racism.

Then there are the blacks that get married, work a good job, but because of a lifetime of being told Republicans are racist, they will support Democrats no matter what. These people probably work with white people everyday and get along with them great, but they still can't shake the deeply ingrained distrust for whites.

It's so frustrating that the cycle keeps repeating itself. The only hope would be to get through to the children, before they've had a chance to ruin them.

If blacks want to see real racism, they need to go to India

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I've already pointed to the studies on race and poverty. There are rich and poor people on both sides, but the disadvantages are more prevalent, more often, for blacks and Hispanics than it is for white babies. That is the problem with the cycle.

If you're born without a father, it will be tougher. If you're born without any financial stability, it will be tougher. There are plenty of success stories from all races that overcome those challenges, but many do not. It also happens to be that black and Hispanic children find themselves in that situation for more often that white children.

We can blame the parents, and we should, but the child didn't ask for any of that. He or she is now behind the eight ball from jump street.

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What does ANY of this have to do with racism?

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Yes

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Interesting.

It does not exist

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Certain cultures promote different ideologies and goals for success. Black culture for example promotes materialistic goals of extreme overnight fame and fortune. Very low success rate. It doesn't promote the long play like education, stable family structure, etc...

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This is not talked about enough. It's in everything black Americans do and see... sports, music, movies, and even on the streets with drug dealers. It's now ingrained into their culture.

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You cant say "they" or "black people" as if thats a person. Average doesnt mean anything in the real world.

A black person is not at a disadvantage to a white person. Stats mean nothing person to person. They only exist to help humans make sense of large populations. Like positions in basketball. They arent real.

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You're missing the point completely. You can argue that a black person with the same socioeconomic status as a white person is not at a disadvantage, but black children are not born into the same socioeconomic situations as white children. You can stop viewing it as an average and look at is as a mode, but it doesn't change the facts.

If you are born black or hispanic, you are 3 times more likely to be born poor than a white child. In other words, a third of black or Hispanic children are born into poverty. 11% of white children are born into poverty. Boom, advantage white people.

It has absolutely nothing to do with racism, so don't confuse my point, but a randomly selected white newborn is going to be in a better socioeconomic situation than a randomly selected black or Hispanic child. That isn't debatable.