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re: Those that love their job, what is your job?
Posted on 3/15/25 at 8:42 am to SwampMonster
Posted on 3/15/25 at 8:42 am to SwampMonster
This is not a new thought, the book of Acts tells us that the apostle Paul was bi-vocational. There were churches (Philippi) who supported Paul, but he was a tent maker, so as not to put a financial burden on the church.
So the idea is not western at all. This is common across the globe with roughly 1/3 of all pastors being bi-vocational. Some denominations have 40-60% bi-vocational pastors. The main reason why is that the congregation is too small to support a full time pastor. Just here in the USA, 70% of all churches are 100 members or less and 30% are 100 members or more. Yet, 70% of the congregants attend the 30% and 30%of the congregants attend the 70%, leaving a very large number of smaller churches unable to support a full time pastor. I pastor one of those churches. Sure, I would like to be able to dedicate more of my time as a full time pastor. However, my focus is on people and not on the bank account. I allow God to handle that, and he has blessed my business more than enough. If or when the church gets to where it can support a full time pastor we will cross that bridge when we get there.
Oh, and I have never studied in a seminary. Though I am not against seminaries, the position of a pastor among others in the Bible is a calling and not a job. A degree at a seminary doesn’t equal a calling.
So the idea is not western at all. This is common across the globe with roughly 1/3 of all pastors being bi-vocational. Some denominations have 40-60% bi-vocational pastors. The main reason why is that the congregation is too small to support a full time pastor. Just here in the USA, 70% of all churches are 100 members or less and 30% are 100 members or more. Yet, 70% of the congregants attend the 30% and 30%of the congregants attend the 70%, leaving a very large number of smaller churches unable to support a full time pastor. I pastor one of those churches. Sure, I would like to be able to dedicate more of my time as a full time pastor. However, my focus is on people and not on the bank account. I allow God to handle that, and he has blessed my business more than enough. If or when the church gets to where it can support a full time pastor we will cross that bridge when we get there.
Oh, and I have never studied in a seminary. Though I am not against seminaries, the position of a pastor among others in the Bible is a calling and not a job. A degree at a seminary doesn’t equal a calling.
This post was edited on 3/15/25 at 9:08 am
Posted on 3/15/25 at 8:45 am to Tigerfan1999
Teach math to (mostly) good students
Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:04 am to stuckintexas
You are wrong on both accounts. The wording may be a new term, but concept is not new at all, the Apostle Paul was bi-vocational.
On the second account, it is childish to throw such offensive name calling around especially when you don’t know the person you are name calling. Based on my experience that is elementary and jr. high level foolishness. Be better than that, I am sure that you are capable to be so.
Lastly, absolutely I enjoy drawing. With that being said, I wouldn’t be a draftsman if I didn’t have to be. I absolutely love my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I repented and put my faith in Jesus Christ 35 years ago when I was 18. I haven’t looked back as He is worthy of my life’s service. God has given me the privilege and honor to serve him many of the following ways: street evangelism and teaching people how to evangelize, as a prison minister both nationally and internationally, helping the youth both in the church and in the inner city, missions director, singles ministry (when I was one), international missionary (planting churches, building churches and preparing pastors to take them over as well as mentoring other pastors) and pastoring here back in the United States.
On the second account, it is childish to throw such offensive name calling around especially when you don’t know the person you are name calling. Based on my experience that is elementary and jr. high level foolishness. Be better than that, I am sure that you are capable to be so.
Lastly, absolutely I enjoy drawing. With that being said, I wouldn’t be a draftsman if I didn’t have to be. I absolutely love my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I repented and put my faith in Jesus Christ 35 years ago when I was 18. I haven’t looked back as He is worthy of my life’s service. God has given me the privilege and honor to serve him many of the following ways: street evangelism and teaching people how to evangelize, as a prison minister both nationally and internationally, helping the youth both in the church and in the inner city, missions director, singles ministry (when I was one), international missionary (planting churches, building churches and preparing pastors to take them over as well as mentoring other pastors) and pastoring here back in the United States.
This post was edited on 3/15/25 at 9:07 am
Posted on 3/15/25 at 10:46 am to Tigerfan1999
Stay at home mom
Don’t hate. It’s the best job ever.
Don’t hate. It’s the best job ever.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 12:27 pm to Peruviantiger
My apologies. You sound like a good fella.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 12:36 pm to Bill Parker?
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I'm self-employed. My boss is an a-hole and makes me work my arse off
So you're married
Posted on 3/15/25 at 1:55 pm to Tigerfan1999
Sold out of a business years ago and stayed on.
HAVE to be somewhere about five events per month.
Recommend if a purchaser is interested and flexible.
Used to do everything now I do what I was really good at: overseeing and growing people and setting them up to make the enterprise successful.
tl/dr:
ETA: It is very fulfilling work. I liked working before. “Love” is too strong a word but I now really, really like what I do. I’m appreciative that the purchaser valued/values me. I am pretty good at my world, (he said modestly).
HAVE to be somewhere about five events per month.
Recommend if a purchaser is interested and flexible.
Used to do everything now I do what I was really good at: overseeing and growing people and setting them up to make the enterprise successful.
tl/dr:
ETA: It is very fulfilling work. I liked working before. “Love” is too strong a word but I now really, really like what I do. I’m appreciative that the purchaser valued/values me. I am pretty good at my world, (he said modestly).
This post was edited on 3/15/25 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 3/15/25 at 1:59 pm to Tigerfan1999
Farm
My own boss
I make the rules, accountable only to myself
My own boss
I make the rules, accountable only to myself
Posted on 3/15/25 at 3:13 pm to stuckintexas
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Your dad is/was a dumbass and gave you terrible advice.
Wanted me to work at a place that had benefits such as sick time, vacation and some form of retirement.
He made great money as an electrician bitcwish he has started at his place sooner.
So how is that bad advice?
Posted on 3/15/25 at 3:15 pm to Tigerfan1999
Retirement
Working hard at it…
Working hard at it…
Posted on 3/15/25 at 3:26 pm to Pepe Lepew
Sales director automotive/ oil and gas industry.
Love what I do and love leading a team.
Some days are more difficult than others. I just expect my team to put the same effort in as I do. While having a balance in life. That’s what’s important to me.
I would be lying to myself though if some weeks I could just go back to selling 100% of the time and have less responsibilities
Love what I do and love leading a team.
Some days are more difficult than others. I just expect my team to put the same effort in as I do. While having a balance in life. That’s what’s important to me.
I would be lying to myself though if some weeks I could just go back to selling 100% of the time and have less responsibilities
Posted on 3/15/25 at 3:28 pm to Pepe Lepew
Retired also, from med labs. Consultant the last 8 years. Loved the consulting , disliked the lab.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 4:24 pm to Tigerfan1999
Occupational therapist and certified hand therapist
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:15 am to SwampMonster
Thank you for your apology and kind words. You too sound like a good fella.
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:42 am to BeachDude022
quote:
Sales
quote:
Semaglutide and Tirzepatide
I imagine it’s like fishing with dynamite.
“Want to lose weight without the burdens of exercise or portion control? I’ve got an expensive drug that you will need to take for life.”
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:54 am to Tigerfan1999
Semi-retired IT consultant. I do 90% of my billable hours in my recliner, usually in my PJ's. I turn away more work than I take in.
Posted on 3/16/25 at 2:36 pm to dupergreenie
The first few years it was amazing, still is but i have a different perspective. I am workaholic and good at what I do. I am gone a lot and when I am home I find myself trying to knock out to do list. Now I am married and with a new child. My parents are getting older and I seem to always have to prioritize my little time home. It pays the bills and I have averaged 1.7 years of work in each work year for the last 6 years. I absolutely love it and the lifestyle it provides but I also enjoy perch jerking or running lines, hunting, camping etc that I now miss out on.
Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:07 pm to cubsfinger
operations engineer for petro chemical plants. Retired age 51, objective is to receive more retirement checks than salary. About 85% of the way there
Posted on 3/16/25 at 6:14 pm to Trevaylin
Marine ops advisor for the big floating facilities in the GOA. Deal with ballast control/planning, USCG regulatory, risk management and other non-marine related efforts for the BU. Major O&G.
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