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This Week in WWII History - The Submarine War

Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:31 am
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:31 am
For the men in the navies of the warring nations in Europe, there was nothing phony about WW2 in October 1939 - mortal danger was immediately under the cold surface at the receiving end of a torpedo or a depth charge...

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Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:34 am to
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Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:35 am to
Imagine being fathoms deep, inside of This



No computers. Just raw human wit and brainpower.
Posted by dbuchanon
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:47 am to
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Imagine being fathoms deep, inside of This


Had to have your nuts screwed on tight for that shite
Posted by IAmNERD
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:59 am to
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Imagine being fathoms deep, inside of This

Absolutely one of the worst fears of mine. If I had joined the Navy and they stuck my arse on a sub, I'd just tell em to go ahead and court martial me and take my medicine. Now way in hell you could stick me in a big tube and purposely sink it. frick all that.

With that being said, the men and women who have done that, are the epitome of badasses.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 12:00 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 12:12 pm to
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With that being said, the men and women who have done that, are the epitome of badasses.


I never thought I'd be called a bad arse on here. So thank you.

Posted by IAmNERD
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 12:14 pm to
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never thought I'd be called a bad arse on here. So thank you.

If you got aboard a submarine, then in my mind you're one of the ultimate badasses. Thank you sir.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 12:17 pm to
Now imagine being in the Hunley
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 12:19 pm to
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With that being said, the men and women who have done that, are the epitome of badasses.


Because the Navy really liked my ASVAB score they recruited the hell out of me for their nuclear subs. I told them they’d lost their minds if they thought I was about to climb into a big metal tube and go sit on the Artic Ocean Floor for God knows how long.

So instead I joined the Army and was shipped to Germany to sit inside a big metal tank in what was known as the Fulda Gap.

Still felt safer there than in a sub.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 9:54 pm
Posted by choppadocta
Louisiana
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:14 pm to
Actually there was an early electromechanical/analog computer on US Subs called a TDC or Torpedo Data Computer.

Wiki T.D.C.
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:21 pm to
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I never thought I'd be called a bad arse on here.

Thanks for your service babo.

I’m a former EM1(SS).

Funny, I can’t imagine how shitty it would have been being stationed on some boring arse surface ship. Our missions in sub squadron 1 were always pretty badass. We surfaced and spent 19 hours on the North Pole in 2005

Back on topic: one of my favorite books is called 10 years and 20 days. It’s the personal memoirs of Grand Admiral Karl Doenitz. He wrote them while in Spandau prison.

Doenitz was the head of the U-Boats, then head of the German Navy, and finally, succeeded Hitler as head of the German state once Hitler committed suicide.

The book goes into extreme detail of the navy planning and mishaps of the uboats from the build up to WWII through the fall of the Third Reich. It is an absolute historical treasure trove. It’s extrememly technical, however, as a prior submariner, I find it fascinating.

The last chapter recalls his time as head of state and is also an incredible insight into the mind of a top Nazi official.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 1:27 pm
Posted by mofungoo
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:36 pm to
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No computers.

Our subs used an analog computer for torpedo settings. The Model 2100 IIRC.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 1:37 pm
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:37 pm to
Plus, the early War US torpedoes were abysmal.
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:42 pm to
Our reactor control panel was all analog until we replaced it in 2007 while in shipyard.

It was somehat amusing to shim out on the control rods while in the source or intermediate range and watching reactor power climb on an analog meter.

It was always funny to have the poor nub throttleman wing open the throttles and watch total power way exceed 100%. We’d shite on him, and then calmly remind him that he did not in fact make reactor power exceed 100% and we weren’t going to melt the reactor down.

Reactor theory... fun times.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 5:51 pm to
Look at this Ww1 sub interior
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 5:59 pm to
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No computers.


IIRC American submarines had rudimentary mechanical computers for calculating firing solutions. And the German Enigma machine might be classified as a computer.
Posted by ScottFowler
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 6:07 pm to
The thing that was a surprise to me was a u-boat attack on a ship was usually done in cover of darkness on the surface. Not at periscope level.
The subs had such a small profile, that surface ships had a hard time seeing them even at "close" range.
So, at night they would be invisible.

Radar became the game changer.

These were what I understand from the German Fleet.
I have no idea tactics-wise about the American fleet. The Vets I have know only spoke about stuffing food in every space imaginable, and sleeping arraignments.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 6:10 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 6:09 pm to
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Plus, the early War US torpedoes were abysmal


Due in large measure to the Rhode Island congressional delegation, which zealously guarded the Naval Torpedo Bureau as a source of political patronage.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 6:17 pm to
By the end of the war the Germans had developed UBoats that could spend most of their time submerged but they were too late to have an effect. A skipper of one of the new German boats made a mock underwater attack on an Allied task force on his way to surrender, and was able to approach within torpedo range without being detected.

I've toured the US WWII submarine on display at Mobile. Much more cramped than in the movies. It would be like living in a long, narrow RV with 100 other men and never going outside.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 6:20 pm
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:30 pm to
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Absolutely one of the worst fears of mine.


I can see if someone is claustrophobic. I toured a WW2 sub in Charleston and thought it was interesting. Sign me up. Tight spaces don’t bother me.
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