re: This "walkable cities" thing I keep hearing about...

TIL Manhattan is a city.

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ETA: one of me neighbors was a nurse and didn’t own a vehicle for years until she got a job at a hospital that was no longer walking distance.

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Most of my neighbors don't have cars, which limits a shitload of stuff they can do.

I suppose if you enjoy staying in the same hood most of the time, and have little adventure, its perfect.

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Well, it is a bullshite fact, but I am laughing because I am assuming to NYC and still have your facts messed up.

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I'm referring to Manhattan specifically, which has an extremely high density per square mile. I'd wager that if we went by city proper, several cities in Asia would have higher densities than most major cities in Europe. I wouldn't consider Dhaka or Kharachi walkable, regardless of their density.

Regardless, you don't need 10,000 people per square mile to effectively use mixed use residential. In fact, outside of the post-war period in the US, it was the norm here too.

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This is why no one takes you people serious. Nothing but zero sum drama, with no understanding of reality.

In between your little medieval German town and Youngsville, there's a shite load of ground to cover, for us not drama queens.

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Perhaps direct that at the OP who thinks there's nothing in between a mcmansion and soviet bloc

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Most of my neighbors don't have cars, which limits a shitload of stuff they can do. I suppose if you enjoy staying in the same hood most of the time, and have little adventure, it’s perfect.

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She owned a bike. It was 5 miles (less than a 30 minute bike ride) to the furthest part of the city she’d want to go. Now sure, if she wanted to leave the city she’d have to rent a car, but that’s not that big of a deal. Also, if the weather was unpleasant she could always jump in a rideshare

They are mostly in Europe

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I'd rather be able to walk through both. You people are just scared of everything.

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I consider S LA weather to be miserable for roughly 2/3rds of the year. Sorry I don’t want to walk around BR or New Orleans in business attire during August.

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How much can you carry on a bike?

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Probably $300 in groceries these days.

Going to get groceries isn't a big deal when it is 2 blocks away.

The expense of shopping daily seems to be offset by the amount of waste. In my experience.

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Going to get groceries isn't a big deal when it is 2 blocks away.

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Going to the grocery is a big deal when I have a car. It takes 8 plus trips been and forth from the car in the driveway. Cases of canned drinks, gallons of milk and OJ, bulky packages of paper towels or toilet paper, etc.

I'm convinced you are single people who don't maintain a household.

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You don't, but what is the point of implementing in 400/sq mile?

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You understand that's exactly the problem? That the predominant mode of urban planning was forcing the strip mall/parking lot system onto the majority of the US in the post-war era. You are insisting that people are forcing one version on people who prefer the other when the reality is that most US cities developed when mixed use wasn't an option. Most US cities have a pretty clear demarcation of where that development began, as linear streets organized in a grid like pattern gave way to more circuitous streets which were developed specifically for the car, and nothing else. Some cities, like Houston and Jacksonville, as well as some older areas like South Florida and LA, developed almost exclusively around the car.

Most of the country lives in areas denser than 400/sq. mi. and we should try to maximize that. We have plenty of options, as again, it isn't as though you can't have areas which accomodate both vehicle and foot traffic. Even in smaller areas, mixed use is good, as it can buttress economic activity and is a good way to develop a sense of community, which is difficult to cultivate in areas dominated by vehicles. There's one example in California which escapes me, but they effectively made their city center more mixed use, with a corresponding increase in the area's economic activity.