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re: This list by @igorvolsky shows Senators who voted against gun bills today & how

Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:52 am to
Posted by CoolHand
Member since Dec 2011
2117 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:52 am to
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be pissed if they bought my vote for $35k!



Yeah, Jeff Seasions doesn't need 35k to be easily elected. Perhaps some might actually vote on upholding the Bill of Rights.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87735 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:53 am to
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Nowhere has anyone proposed 'disarming' anyone. Stop lying in an effort to make some bullshite point.



Didn't a lead writer for Vox, a prominent liberal publication, advocate for that last week?
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
22814 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:54 am to
Yeah, I'm sure a lot of those guys were going to vote for the bill until they got their $5K campaign donation...

Feel free to point out which of these Senators were for this bill and voted against it.
Posted by Badman
West Monroe, LA
Member since Nov 2009
2703 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:54 am to
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The TSDB (terror watch list) and No Fly List are both secretive and impossible to efficiently appeal. Hence, you can be on them, have your rights stripped, and not know why.


No Due Process. You can be put on the list without any hearings or evidence to prove why you should be put on it.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:54 am to
I've been reading up on this igorvolsky character and supposedly this dude is tweeting lies.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 10:55 am
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23366 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:55 am to
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Didn't a lead writer for Vox, a prominent liberal publication, advocate for that last week?


quote:

Why It's Time to Repeal the Second Amendment

"[It] needs to be repealed because it is outdated, a threat to liberty and a suicide pact," says constitutional law professor

By David S. Cohen June 13, 2016



Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139218 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:55 am to
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I'm not on it and honestly don't ever give it much thought. I had no idea that you can't find out why you're on it or appeal to get off of it.


It's just like the no-fly list. The only way you know you're on it is if you try to fly and get denied.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
11156 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:56 am to
lol who's the dude with $0?

Ole Vitter getting screwed compared to Cassidy. Most of these are embarrassingly low compared to what the media portrays.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
23122 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:56 am to
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Nowhere has anyone proposed 'disarming' anyone. Stop lying in an effort to make some bullshite point.
LOL pot meet kettle.
Posted by GoHoGsGo06
Member since Nov 2006
5739 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:57 am to
I think he meant no politician has requested repeal of 2A. Not some media blogger
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
23122 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:57 am to
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Is this how you always respond to people who acknowledge ignorance and ask questions?
Yep especially when it come to gun control and TD. A simple Google search would have prevented his triggering.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13499 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:58 am to
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Didn't a lead writer for Vox, a prominent liberal publication, advocate for that last week?

You don't see a difference between a writer for a website and a Congressman?

This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 11:00 am
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87735 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:58 am to
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It's just like the no-fly list. The only way you know you're on it is if you try to fly and get denied.



Obviously can't even do that with the TSDB. Even when you sue the government, they typically won't tell you.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
23122 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:59 am to
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40256 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:00 am to
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The only way you know you're on it is if you try to fly and get denied.


Well will I know before I go through security and get to my gate? Seriously -- at what point do you find out?? After you buy a ticket? Headed out in about 3 weeks with my daughter.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87735 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:01 am to
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You don't see a difference between a writer for a website and a Congressman?



Not when the writer reveals the goals of his side. Do I think any Democratic official of significance is going to call for confiscation? No I don't.

Do I think plenty of Democrats would support confiscation if it became viable? Absolutely.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23366 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:02 am to
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I think he meant no politician has requested repeal of 2A. Not some media blogger


He's a constitutional law professor from Drexyl in PA. The same position (with a different school) our President held before his election.

And finding Pelosi, Feinstein, et al quotes with similar messages wouldn't be difficult.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 11:03 am
Posted by Cole Beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
4929 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:03 am to
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He said, the NRA knows how the left is, in that, they are absolutely never satisfied. They always want more until there is nothing left. They know if they budge now, the left will demand even more in the future until there is no 2A.


That's some paranoid bullshite right there.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87735 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:04 am to
I have some experience with watch list litigation. It's a nightmare. That Democrats, who loathe the patriot act and praise the ACLU, support tying constitutional restrictions to the TSDB, is insane.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87735 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:05 am to
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Well will I know before I go through security and get to my gate? Seriously -- at what point do you find out?? After you buy a ticket? Headed out in about 3 weeks with my daughter.



The No Fly List is a lot smaller than the TSDB and Selectee lists. You're very unlikely to be on it.
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