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re: This is why Black Americans dont trust the police

Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by Shugg84
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:17 pm to
Your sentence is set up in a way that suggests you believe otherwise. Whether that suggestion is correct can be clarified only by you.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:18 pm to
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The correlation between socioeconomic status and crime rate isn't as sexy to focus on as race, but that's almost always the biggest driver.


Yep. At the end of the day it's poor people killing poor people. Single parent households are the most at risk of being in poverty and now we have something to talk about.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:18 pm to
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They hang out in specific areas and are happy to take users down also - particularly if they can leverage them to give up bigger fish.


Ok, so now you're talking about 2 totally scenarios, not like the drama you originally posted.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

Your sentence is set up in a way that suggests you believe otherwise

wut

Posted by Shugg84
Member since Feb 2014
194 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:20 pm to
I can agree with that as well.

Now we are getting somewhere.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:20 pm to
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Sadly, yes. Many blacks literally believe they commit no more crimes than anyone else, they just get more police attention.


Are we talking crimes in general or murder?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:21 pm to
i think pretty much everyone understands it's a SES/culture issue

but that opens up a WHOLE new can of worms
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:21 pm to
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What if the 60% population was committing 92% of the crime? Should the cops arrest whites just to appease you?



Searches not crime baw.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:21 pm to
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Yep. At the end of the day it's poor people killing poor people. Single parent households are the most at risk of being in poverty and now we have something to talk about.


Well if black fathers weren't unjustly arrested and killed by the police the single parent household situation in the black community wouldn't be a problem!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:22 pm to
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Are we talking crimes in general or murder?

well the crimes that really get police attention are violent crimes and then property crimes (as i said earlier)

when you throw in drugs (and the overlap with violent/property crime) and geography, you get a better picture of how these situations lead to the statistical skewing (just like how the populations in question already skew those stats)
Posted by Shugg84
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:22 pm to
Shid not everyone. There are some folks that actually believe otherwise. Some of them post in this thread.


If the situations race wise were 100% reversed, white/asian/hispanic would be committing the same amount of crimes.

Its SES all the way.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:23 pm to
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Well if black fathers weren't unjustly arrested and killed by the police the single parent household situation in the black community wouldn't be a problem!


Wut?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:23 pm to
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So your belief is that black people are genetically predisposed to commit more crime. Gotcha.
LOL.
No. That isn't what my belief is, but now I will add to my belief the realization that Shugg84 is a moron
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:23 pm to
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Searches not crime baw.

What if 60% of the population gave more reason for searches baw?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476560 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Well if black fathers weren't unjustly arrested and killed by the police the single parent household situation in the black community wouldn't be a problem!

that argument does have merit

the WOD is the #1 issue that is driving all of this shite, on multiple levels
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:24 pm to
How about we get to the WHY of black people shitting on those who ditch the prevailing "G-Code/culture/whatever" to get up OUT of there? How about WHY black people abdicate their voting clout to a party more interested in keeping them in said socioeconomic strata than genuinely helping them better themselves? How about WHY so many black people make excuses for our own ridiculously high crime/murder/recidivism rate, instead of bolstering each other up out of the muck?

Those are the questions that need to be addressed. Honestly, I'm not interested so much in where people began (people are always going to be born to different stations in life), but how hard they work to improve their circumstances. Some will have to work harder than others, regardless of race. That's just life.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:24 pm to
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Are we talking crimes in general or murder?
Both.

Dear God. If you plan to try and deny that. Save keystrokes. All I will do is laugh at you.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:26 pm to
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well the crimes that really get police attention are violent crimes and then property crimes (as i said earlier)



False. police target blacks heavier than any other race going back to post civil war that tradition never ended.


I gotta meeting now.


TBird I will catch your arse in the next police brutality thread.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:26 pm to
Can we get back to the video?

Does this thread at least have 100% agreement that BOTH cops in this video should have been fired. Not just the idiot male cop?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476560 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:26 pm to
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How about we get to the WHY of black people shitting on those who ditch the prevailing "G-Code/culture/whatever" to get up OUT of there? How about WHY black people abdicate their voting clout to a party more interested in keeping them in said socioeconomic strata than genuinely helping them better themselves? How about WHY so many black people make excuses for our own ridiculously high crime/murder/recidivism rate, instead of bolstering each other up out of the muck?

yeah i was touching on this in the "homework" thread, indirectly

if more people truly focused on how much of our public resources were directed at people (of all races, mind you) who reject culture, goals, behavior, etc that has been proven to be more successful, in order to try to save themselves from these choices, you'd see a mass explosion of heads
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