re: Things are heating up again in Korea (UPDATE IN OP: US Mobilizes 2nd ID)

For OldDumbAss's benefit, I did go to Google (not sure why that's a big deal to some here but that's a different discussion). There is a system, a land based version of the Phalanx system that's been used by the navy for years, called C-RAM that is now being deployed. Here it is....


And here's a good write-up on what it is and what it can do ( LINK)

Basically, it's good for shooting down small mortar rounds, like 60mm. It's designed to be used to protect areas from at best "sporadic" mortar fire. It cannot counter even battery fire, groupings of about 6-12 artillery pieces targeting a single target, much less being able to counter the thousands of rounds that would be raining down on Seoul in the opening moments of a war in Korea.

And one more thing, I've not found anything showing this system is capable of intercepting heavy artillery rounds (152mm & up) that would be used in an attack on Seoul. The only use this system would be is if the North Koreans were already so close to the city it was within the range of their mortars of that size. For reference purposes, here's what a 60mm mortar looks like....



Here's what would be pounding Seoul....

What makes anyone confident that N. Koreans are loyal at all? I could see a war as an opportunity for a revolution or governmental overthrow.

They have no reason other than fear to obey, and all that changes when to govt is facing impending doom

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For OldDumbAss's benefit

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OleWarSkuleAlum

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I had no idea you were this much of a tard. I will have to pay more attention to your posts in the future.

Everyone knows Darth is over the top with this stuff. And feet. Different people geek out on different things. But keep this in mind. You think he is a mouth-breathing douchebag piece of biker trash. And you still had to resort to personal attacks and name-calling because you couldn't outdo him in a legit debate. Ponder on what your self-image should be based on that.

nevermind. I give up.

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Maybe you have, maybe you haven't. I doubt it though.

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I actually guarantee I have seen more direct action combat than you have with the caveat unless you were in H.R. McMaster's company at 73 Easting.

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Its laughable to think they will get even close to that far. The amount of air power that will unleash on them would be devastating.

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I think you're right. It's like I've said more than one in this thread, the DMZ itself and it's millions of landmines will create the first obstacle. Any invasion from the north would have to clear a pathway though these minefields which in turn would create massive bottlenecks that would prove to be juicy targets for American air power. Earlier I compared it to either the Highway of Death from the First Gulf War or the Falaise Pocket from WWII. Either way, what would happen would be nothing short of absolute slaughter of the North Korean forces even before they got through the DMZ. And past that point, things would get no better for them. The terrain of central Korea dictates their main forces would be funneled into narrow avenues of approach, which, much like the pathways through the DMZ's minefields, would mean tightly packed columns for our air power to rip to shreds. The end result would be the vast majority of the North Korean army being destroyed within spitting distance of the DMZ. The question at that point is what would the South Korans and US do? Invade the North? It would be ripe for the taking.

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The question I had was how fast can that power be deployed from first call to enough in the air to make a difference?

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Minutes. We have GCAS and XCAS on 24/7.

Lets say Kim Jong Un is not interested in an invasion of SK. Say he just wants to go out in a blaze of glory. What would be his best strategy to just kill as many SK as possible?

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That quote shows you have no knowledge whatsoever on this system besides your Google search. I personally have seen it intercept (successfully mind you) 107mm and 122mm Rockets. Not a single rocket either but rather upwards of 6 at once.

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And that statement shows you have no knowledge whatsoever in the different ballistics of a rocket and a conventional artillery round. Plus, you're still ignoring the fact that there's not enough of these in place to counter a full barrage. We'd have to have thousands of these systems sited around Seoul to protect it from a full barrage from North Korea. So you think we've got them in those numbers?