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re: Things are getting crazy in Northern Ireland this Easter weekend

Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:05 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:05 am to
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Think Alabama leaves the US, but wants to keep all the advantages of being a state with none of the rules they don't like.


No. It's like Alabama leaving a trade agreement because they objecting to California setting the rules


Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42393 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:26 am to
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Blows my mind shite like this is still happening in a modern, white country.


They are all a bunch of assholes
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
5335 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:30 am to
My people came to Philly from Londonderry back in the 1760’s. Man, it could have been me.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36654 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:31 am to
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The "people" now have buyer's remorse because they didn't understand all the details of what it would entail.


Rehashing narrative talking points from over a year ago?

Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8335 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:36 am to
No it won’t. If you think Germany and France would allow that then you don’t know how the EU actually works.
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8335 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:38 am to
But in this situation California (the EU countries) have the upper hand.

Eta: they can already form trade deals with non EU countries. But most of their trade is WITH the EU. Only simpletons think you just pull the plug and things go on unaffected by Brexit.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 11:46 am
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10963 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:44 am to

Was it Britain or original town people that pushed to include the original Derry in N Ireland instead of Ireland by continuing to draw partition border along river Foyle?

I thought the original side is now mostly Catholic, but I am not sure if that was the case back in the 1910s-1920s.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36631 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:45 am to
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Rehashing narrative talking points from over a year ago?



Well...the narrative hasn't changed.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40036 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:45 am to
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Yet we have free trade agreements with multiple countries without belonging to some supra-national organization.



But free trade agreements take a long time to negotiate. The beginnings of the TPP, for example, were first negotiated in 2008, with the final agreement in 2017.

Honestly, it would take upwards of a decade for a proper withdrawal. The two-year window for Article 50 means that any withdrawal will be rushed.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40036 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:46 am to
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No. It's like Alabama leaving a trade agreement because they objecting to California setting the rules



But the UK had plenty of special concessions, including retaining their own currency.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46665 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:47 am to
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But in this situation California (the EU countries) have the upper hand.


And are being vindictive about it. All the more reason to leave the EU.

Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51408 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:49 am to
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They're not real Irishmen though. Same with the Italians... they're not Paisan for the most part

Your Italians here are Sicilians.
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
4242 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:49 am to
O’Culcha
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8335 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:50 am to
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But free trade agreements take a long time to negotiate. The beginnings of the TPP, for example, were first negotiated in 2008, with the final agreement in 2017. Honestly, it would take upwards of a decade for a proper withdrawal. The two-year window for Article 50 means that any withdrawal will be rushed.


Exactly.

Something as simple as the channel tunnel will cause billions of dollars in new tariffs on both sides if truckers can’t go from France to the UK and vice versa.

British airways will lose access to hundreds of EU airports that they have unconditional access to now.

But some guy from Alabama is going lecture us on these issues when they can’t even solve Clemson’s freshman QB on offense.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36631 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:52 am to
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Your Italians here are Sicilians.





Not all of us.


A few Easter's ago, we found out we aren't Sicilian like we grew up believing. Apparently we are Sardinian Jews who fled to Sicily to escape persecution.


Gotta be the first time in history anyone ever fled to Sicily.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40036 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:53 am to
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And are being vindictive about it. All the more reason to leave the EU.



I don't think they are being vindictive. There are two negotiation styles that don't work with one another. The EU presented their best offer upfront, and has remained committed to that offer, as far as I'm aware. The UK wanted that offer to be the touching point of further offers, driving hard bargains, in order to gain further concessions. And it's been the UK that has floundered because the EU has no need to present further concessions.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46665 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:53 am to
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Something as simple as the channel tunnel will cause billions of dollars in new tariffs on both sides if truckers can’t go from France to the UK and vice versa.


So?

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British airways will lose access to hundreds of EU airports that they have unconditional access to now.



The only way that would happen is if the EU decided to be spitefully jackasses. Which so far they have, so you probably have a point here.

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But some guy from Alabama is going lecture us on these issues when they can’t even solve Clemson’s freshman QB on offense.


Real quality argument you have here. I bet you thought you were being clever.
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8335 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:53 am to
Are you stupid? The EU has agreed to push back the date about 10 times already.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46665 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:54 am to
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The EU presented their best offer upfront


Best offer being: Do it my way or you will suffer.

Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8335 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:55 am to
You are an idiot.

They are negotiating one of the largest trade deals in the world. This isn’t about being vindictive. The only people who think that are jackasses like you who haven’t done any real deals before.
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