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re: They just removed the Lee statue in Richmond VA...any of you care anymore?

Posted on 9/8/21 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/8/21 at 5:35 pm to
Two facts about Lee. When his father in law died, Lee inherited Arlington Plantation, now Arlington National Cemetery. He freed all the slaves within five days. This was pre-Civil War

Just weeks after the surrender of the South, Lee was at church in Richmond. A lone elderly black man entered the church and sat in back. Lee walked back and escorted the man to the front and sat with him in the front pew.

If Lee had chosen to fight for the Union he probably would have ended up as a President.
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/8/21 at 5:36 pm to
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Sorry your ancestors sucked at war.



You would be lucky to suck at life. You just suck at everything.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24078 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 5:37 pm to
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He freed all the slaves within five days


That stat is actually five years.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
21232 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 5:39 pm to
Need a 1000 foot tall statue of St Floyd of Fentanyl mainlining heroin and it will solve all issues.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 5:39 pm to
I’m gonna need some aloe Vera to recover from that sick burn.
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
18042 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 5:40 pm to
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I’m gonna need some aloe Vera to recover from that sick burn.


Sorry, all out.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/8/21 at 5:42 pm to
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If Lee had chosen to fight for the Union he probably would have ended up as a President.


Likely true.

A mans loyalty was to the State, not the union. The union was still relatively weak.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/8/21 at 5:42 pm to
i have no doubt you have access to plenty of adequate skin lotion.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 5:53 pm to
You’re making a fundamental rhetorical mistake.

You shouldn’t make that argument.

You’re tacitly accepting the Democrats judgement that we were evil people. The only effective response, is to deny their morality, their right to judge, and their character (they have none).

Attack. Attack. Attack.
This post was edited on 9/8/21 at 5:54 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41566 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 5:54 pm to
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wadewilson, c and z & CrimsonFever still can't explain why the urban population continues to kill each other, be illiterate, and, yet, given every mean available to advance themselves, 99% choose not to.

ETA: I forgot, it's the statue's fault.


Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 9/8/21 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/8/21 at 6:05 pm to
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Likely true.

A mans loyalty was to the State, not the union. The union was still relatively weak.


And the state submitted to the central government when it ratified the constitution, thus nullifying the weak central government provided by the articles of confederation.

This states rights argument was dead in the water 70 years before the war.

ETA: It's revisionist history that's being pimped out by people who cling on to anything to justify the rebellion.
This post was edited on 9/8/21 at 6:07 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 6:07 pm to
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, thus nullifying the weak central government provided by the articles of confederation.


The rank and file had more loyalty to their State than to the union

It was a simple and true statement that you cannot understand. No one made a judgement about it, Karen.
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Posted on 9/8/21 at 6:09 pm to
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Why did he have a statue in the first place?


My fantasy football league didn’t give me a participation trophy when I finished second last season.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41566 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 6:09 pm to
That last paragraph is hilarious. Lee lost Gettysburg on bad logistics, and Trump really thinks he could have handled Afghanistan?
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41566 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 6:10 pm to
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The rank and file had more loyalty to their State than to the union

It was a simple and true statement that you cannot understand.


Still a false premise.

Sorry you can't understand that, Beavis.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 6:10 pm to
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Trump really thinks he could have handled Afghanistan?


Far better than your dementia ridden ape in the WH.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41566 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 6:11 pm to
I didn't vote for either of those perverts.

Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 6:13 pm to
What is Trump’s culture as it relates to the Confederate south?


Oh, but he’s not a white supremacist. Right.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 6:14 pm to
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I didn't vote for either of those perverts.


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