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re: These Solar Farm companies are getting out of control...

Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:58 am to
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:58 am to
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Solar and wind energy wouldn’t be feasible without these massive subsidies.

Almost like agricultural subsidies huh?
Posted by NickyT
Patty's Pub
Member since Jan 2007
8613 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:58 am to
they are taking away crops which will cause a shortage and increase in cost to us
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27515 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:58 am to
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leasing land for cell towers is where it's at baw


It really is.

That and land locking oilfields

Sold my neighbor 1ft of my property. He gets a cut. I get to charge more.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134993 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:00 am to
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You mention the govt money involved. I have a friend that is involved with self sustaining farms and its incredible the amount of money you can get in govt incentives with these. The production never seems to outweigh the money going in though


I'm sure the govt regulations they have to comply with eat a lot of that money
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12704 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:02 am to
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so they can receive millions in federal taxpayer money
Thats not how this works at all.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12704 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:03 am to
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That and land locking oilfields

shite. Do you even substation lease bro?
Posted by Tempratt
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Member since Oct 2013
13479 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:03 am to
I bet eminent domain will be attempted, somehow.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7612 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:03 am to
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I can't believe people are willing to destroy precious Louisiana farmland in the name of clean energy.


Fun inconvenient factoid, as much as they are pushing solar on farm land if you think about it, wouldn’t that be similar to clear cutting forests since plants use carbon dioxide to make Oxygen.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262130 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:04 am to
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they are taking away crops which will cause a shortage and increase in cost to us


Yes, rationing to be the norm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134993 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:05 am to
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Fun inconvenient factoid, as much as they are pushing solar on farm land if you think about it, wouldn’t that be similar to clear cutting forests since plants use carbon dioxide to make Oxygen.

Ironically, they are also clear cutting forests to put up these farms. Granted, many of them are pine forests meant for harvest but they're still clear cutting for these farms.
Posted by JohnnyBgood
South Louisiana
Member since May 2010
4296 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:08 am to
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what are you growing on this s fertile land?


Rice, soybeans and crawfish.

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why don't you take advantage of the federal tax benefits yourself?


Its not for the landowners. Its for the energy companies proposing to build solar farms and sell to the grid.
Posted by JohnnyBgood
South Louisiana
Member since May 2010
4296 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:11 am to
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And that good farmland becomes useless land that won’t hold any value


Then land essentially becomes a wasteland. Solar panels are considered hazardous material by the EPA. No one is thinking about the future, just the lucrative deals in front of their faces.
Posted by texn
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Member since Nov 2019
3518 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:12 am to
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The proposal is total shite and doesn't even guarantee the landowners much of anything, other than years of "due diligence" and "developmental" phases


A lot of landowners don't realize how long they are locking up their land (i.e. making it so that they can't realistically sell it or lease it to anyone else) for decades for little if no upfront or guaranteed money.

A lot of the contracts that I see are really option agreements: they will pay landowners if and only if solar energy is produced from the land. Meanwhile, Farmer Brown is precluded for decades from selling to a real estate developer who wants to turn the land into a subdivision.

I think that is the real play here. Watch for these "solar" companies to come back to landowner in coming years buying the land at a steep discount because they have ruined the true value of such land with such lease option now attached to the land.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:19 am to
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what are you growing on this s fertile land?


I'm guessing rice and soybeans, like everyone else.

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why don't you take advantage of the federal tax benefits yourself?


It's not for farming soybeans and rice.
Posted by Telecaster
Memphis
Member since May 2017
1695 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:20 am to
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Ironically, they are also clear cutting forests to put up these farms. Granted, many of them are pine forests meant for harvest but they're still clear cutting for these farms.


Exactly. I own 160 acres of pine timberland in Union Parish. I’m getting cards, letters, phone calls and FedEx letters with proposals to put in a solar farm on the property. This would require cutting down a 22 year old replanted stand to make room for the panels. Nope, no can do.

Damn things are ugly and ruin the countryside.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134993 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:24 am to
Did some due diligence work on a potential site in south AR. Beautiful piece of property that's going to be bulldozed for a bunch of solar panels. The amount of wildlife that'll be displaced is staggering as well.
Posted by foosball
Member since Nov 2021
1919 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:30 am to
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Almost like agricultural subsidies huh?


No, the ag industry is still profitable without subsidies. The solar and wind industries can’t function without them
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59615 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:34 am to
so more similar to airline and manufacturing bailouts?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12704 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:45 am to
Does anyone in here have any real clue how these subsidies work? Lots of wrong takes as usual.
Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
6225 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:47 am to


If one of these pricks show up to my doorstep.
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