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re: There aren’t enough skilled workers and guys under 40 willing to work with their hands

Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by Texjohnson
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2020
43 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:05 pm to
stop yelling at the sky grandpa
Posted by dillpickleLSU
Philadelphia, PA
Member since Oct 2005
26298 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:05 pm to
I started a side handyman business that I work when my work from home calendar is empty. Made $1,860 on a job this week installing lights/ceiling fan junction boxes, outlets behind tvs in a new house. Worked out to over 100/hour and that's my goal.

Did a water softener and whole house filter a few weeks ago.

People tell me that they call electricians and such and no one returns their calls.....if you're handy, there's a market, take advantage.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:06 pm to
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younger people just have shite work ethic.


If that’s the case, wonder what generation raised them???
Posted by texn
Pronouns: Y'All/Y'All's
Member since Nov 2019
4006 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:07 pm to
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There aren’t enough skilled workers and guys under 40 willing to work with their hands



They're coming across our southern border right now.


No, the Mexicans that can provide skilled labor came across years ago.

What is coming over now, even the Mexicans look down upon.

(All of this were told to me by Mexican-American ICE agents)
Posted by TomJoadGhost
Alabama
Member since Nov 2022
1003 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:07 pm to
Guess it’s time for you to pick up a hammer and shovel and get to work.
Posted by Cregg
Orange Beach
Member since Jul 2017
2325 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:09 pm to
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There aren’t enough skilled workers and guys under 40 willing to work with their hands


I'm licensed and insured and 30 years old. Have made a killing the past year doing side work. Will probably start full time coming this summer if all goes to plan. If you have a good attitude and clean up your mess when you are done your name will spread like wildfire down here.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77246 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:09 pm to
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the current generationgrew up playing playstation


Define current generation?

I know a lot of people between 40-45 years old that grew up playing video games.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
104032 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:12 pm to
Just a couple things worth noting:

1. We're about 15-20 years into the "everyone should go to college" trend and there is a real societal expectation to go to a 4-year college. I had to half fight with a Mom the other day in a career counseling session over telling her kid he'd be a good candidate for an associates program that will get him a certification in a blue-collar field. You would have thought I told them her kid was going to be a bagger at Kroger for the rest of his life.

As a society, we have to do better about promoting skilled working jobs.

2. A lot of blue-collar jobs would hire you and then pay a liveable wage for an apprenticeship. I had a kid come in the other day that found a plumber apprenticeship but they were only going to pay him $18,000 starting out and he couldn't afford to live on that in today's economy. Something has to give there.

It's not that the younger generation is lazy. It's that they've found other opportunities.
Posted by The Top G
Member since Jan 2023
139 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:13 pm to
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I started a side handyman business that I work when my work from home calendar is empty. Made $1,860 on a job this week installing lights/ceiling fan junction boxes, outlets behind tvs in a new house. Worked out to over 100/hour and that's my goal.


If you make this your living subtract your income tax from your profits and both employee and employer sides of FICA (both of which you are supposed to do anyway), plus your costs to be licensed and insured.

And those are just the obvious costs. What about any other overhead or regulatory compliance or having to pay someone to keep your books or do your taxes?

You now make $30 an hour only when you are at a job. Max.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 2:15 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83234 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:14 pm to
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You now make $30 an hour only when you are at a job.



yup
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56868 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:14 pm to
You see it here all the time. Unfortunately these office baws just don’t have a high enough t level to run bead on the pipeline like a real man
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15079 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:15 pm to
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Pay more.

You're not wrong. At my last company the Ops guys always bitched about a competitor paying .25 more an hour. I would remind them that Target paid more than us for overnight stockers and we wanted them digging ditches in the heat.

This was less of an issue in the northern union states where there were more clear paths to a good career.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 2:16 pm
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
19074 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:19 pm to
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I love working with my hands. I especially love building furniture and rebuilding engines. Neither pays what I make sitting in an office.


Me too. I am into 3D printing and I do some home welding to make cool stuff but if I sold them it is less than my billable per hr rate doing my actual job.

I am cheap so I do most basic maintenance myself. The only basic thing I pay for is car stuff like oil changes.
Posted by TomJoadGhost
Alabama
Member since Nov 2022
1003 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:21 pm to
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It's not that the younger generation is lazy. It's that they've found other opportunities.


The irony of course is that this board is largely made up of white collar, college educated folks. A lot of them post multiple times a day while at work. But the ones that don’t want to pursue a career in plumbing are the lazy ones.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98422 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:21 pm to
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I know a lot of people between 40-45 years old that grew up playing video games.


A lot still do at that age
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
59932 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:21 pm to
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If that’s the case, wonder what generation raised them???


Boomers and Gen X.

One group that had everything handed to them on a silver platter and act like they invented America and another that saw their parents were fricking everything up but were too lazy to shite about it b/c they were still going to get theirs before everything implodes.

They are both pretty good at blaming the younger gens that have almost zero power for all their cock ups though. So there's that.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57873 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:22 pm to
people on here overly romanticize trade work, but that's not to say it's not great for some people.

if you get a good degree, you will:
-make more money
-have PTO
-generally have a more stable life
-have significantly better working conditions
Posted by dillpickleLSU
Philadelphia, PA
Member since Oct 2005
26298 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:22 pm to
Registration is 55 bucks for 2 years, insurance is 60 bucks a month for a 1M policy. Quickbooks is 30 a month.

I don't have an employee, I am the employee so all I have to subtract is income tax.

Your 30 dollar estimate is wrong and as I get more work I'll push the prices up.

Plus I get to deduct usage of my vehicle, home office, etc. I am going to talk to a CPA about how to deduct as much as I can....so I'll be ok
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32913 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:23 pm to
What do you do for a living?
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:25 pm to
Yes
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