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re: Then they came for our Zyn

Posted on 1/26/24 at 11:43 am to
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
1628 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 11:43 am to
I've tried a gob of caffeine tabs over the years going back to No-Doz and they make me nauseous, but this stuff just plain rocks
This post was edited on 1/26/24 at 11:48 am
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
30184 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 11:57 am to
I can’t wait to try it.

I seriously drink way too much coffee but need the caffeine. I hope I like it.

NoDoz never worked for me. But I think it only has like maybe 60gm of caffeine so maybe that was the issue.

And I don’t like energy drinks bc they’re all too sweet. Even the zero sugar kinds.
This post was edited on 1/26/24 at 11:58 am
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
1628 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 12:00 pm to
right there with you on all point - I like coffee first thing in the morning and after that I'm done with that a delivery method. Hate soft drinks and sport drinks esp sugar free.

I edited an earlier post, but as a nurse you know caffeine is a diuretic so make sure to stay hydrated. And try it on empty vs full stomach for differing effect - personally I like the hit better on empty stomach but that's me.
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
30184 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 12:03 pm to
Caffeine also suppresses my appetite. I struggle with maintaining a healthy weight for my height and frame, so I try to be intentional with eating well but I suck at staying properly hydrated.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58915 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

I think it only has like maybe 60gm of caffeine


Only 60 gm?
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
1628 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 12:08 pm to
YMMV, but try a little ACV mixed with water for appetite suppression - be sure to use good ACV like Braggs and you don't need a lot - like a shot glass mixed in a litre of water
Posted by lsu5803tiger
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Member since Feb 2006
1628 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 12:12 pm to
2 hour half life for nicotine, 6 for caffeine. Some people have a gene that makes them metabolize caffeine slower, as well.
Posted by GeauxOn
Texas
Member since Mar 2014
196 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 12:40 pm to
The tobacco industry would be investing $0 to Schumer for this stance, quite the opposite. TDN (Tobacco Derived Nicotine) products (aka Zyn, On!, Rogue and Velo) are a fast growing segment for all the major players in an otherwise declining category. Zyn, owned by swedish match, is the dominant brand in that category, hence the easy target. It's essentially the Juul play all over agai for Congress. Zyn is also made an easy target, much like Juul, because their advertising can be construed as targeting the teen population..
Posted by GeauxOn
Texas
Member since Mar 2014
196 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 12:46 pm to
For those that aren't familiar with the tobacco industry. Zyn is owned by Swedish Match, also the manufacturers of White Owl and Game little cigars. On! is manufactured by Helix Innovations, which is owned by Altria, who also owns PhilipMorris USA and USSR, so Marlboro and Copenhagen. Velo is manufactured by Modoral, which is owned by RJ Reynolds (BAT), who also owns RJR Tob and American Snuff Co, so Newport/Camel and Grizzly. All these companies also have vapor products
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
5816 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:05 pm to
Nicotine:
Prevents Alzheimer's
Improves memory
Improves concentration
Reduces anxiety
Relieves stress
Assists in weight loss

Government:
It's BAD

People need to stop associating the negative impacts of smoking and vaping with nicotine. Its no less harmful than THC. It's usually the vehicle that delivers the drugs that have the harmful side effects.

I don't know much about Zyn, but I'm sure it's just like the nicotine patch or gum. That stuff has never harmed anyone or caused them to get addicted to meth.

Posted by GeauxOn
Texas
Member since Mar 2014
196 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:05 pm to
While I don't disagree that big government likes to enact legislation to ensure optimal tax revenues, it doesn't exactly apply here. Cigarettes and OTP (Other Tobacco Products) are taxed differently. Most nicotine pouch (TDN) users were already users of OTP and in most tax jurisdictions TDN and OTP are taxed the same. If the Fed was truly worried about losing Cig tax revenues they would be opposed to the FDA national flavor ban (menthol) which at top estimates would result in a 30-35% decrease in Cigarette tax revenues. All that to be said, Congress is looking to double the federal excise tax on cigarettes. Both legislations would likely happen after the November election, due to the major impact to the democratic voter base.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9502 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:07 pm to
Just throw a frickin dip in like a man
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
30184 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Only 60 gm?



that's like 2 cups of coffee. I drink an entire pot of coffee every morning.

Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
30184 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

but try a little ACV mixed with water for appetite suppression


I don't need my appetite suppressed anymore than it already is. I have to take protein shakes for now bc I've dropped so much weight lately.
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
1628 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:22 pm to
sorry, my mistake I read your comment about appetite incorrectly
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7749 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:24 pm to
Bring back coin operated cigarette machines.
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